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  • #734489
    Anonymous
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    A victory for common sense!

    I’m a great believer in mobile kiosks as if they don’t work in a particular location assuming no wall to place them against you are trying to front then you just move them. In general kiosks over a meter tall represent clutter with little rent and massive disruption to sight lines; in London the Christmas lights on South Molton Street were exceptional but were ruined by a kiosk on Oxford Street of similar dimensions to these ones selling fake football tops and other cheap textile crap.

    Were these ones sent to Croker or will they be reused somewhere else?

    #734490
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    So looks like we’re getting the BX bridge & sooner than we thought … the only bit of positive news is that BX circus will not go ahead until after metro north is complete – enough time i hope for sanity to prevail & the ridiculous loop as proposed by the RPA to be abandoned.

    Given that you could actually piss from O’Connell bridge & hit this new yoke, it had better be as discreet as possible.

    @RTE wrote:

    New LUAS bridge to ease traffic
    Thursday, 17 April 2008 19:06
    A new LUAS bridge is to be used to ease traffic disruption in Dublin city centre during the construction of the Metro North and the interconnector.

    Dublin City Council’s Director of Traffic Michael Philips said the bridge to be built for LUAS line BX is ‘urgently needed’ to keep buses moving when works start in 2010.

    He said an implementation group has been set up using engineers who worked on the Port Tunnel to oversee works by the Rail Procurement Agency and Iarnród Eireann.

    AdvertisementMr Philips said they will advise on construction methods which he said is an evolving situation and will see St Stephen’s Green become ‘Grand Central Station’.

    He said business groups are worried about the five years of disruption they face because of their experience during the last LUAS works which only lasted 18 months.

    Mr Philips confirmed to a meeting of the council’s transport committee this evening that construction of a bridge for LUAS BX linking Hawkins Street on the southside with Hawkins Street on the northside will go ahead.

    It is planned to have it ready when the dig starts for a new Metro North station on O’Connell bridge.

    But apart from enabling works construction of the LUAS BX which will link the Red and Green lines will not begin until the metro is completed in 2013.

    Mr Philips said the council are working with the utility companies to warn them that major works on gas, water and electricity lines will not be possible for five years after transport works start.

    It was confirmed to councillors that private cars face bans or restrictions in College Green, Westmoreland St and O’Connell St.
    And that work on the Arnotts development will be going on at the same time as metro and interconnector works.

    #734491
    fergalr
    Participant

    A new LUAS bridge is to be used to ease traffic disruption in Dublin city centre during the construction of the Metro North and the interconnector

    What does that mean?

    #734492
    missarchi
    Participant

    urgently not needed…

    everyone will be catching the metro after this so this is a waste of money
    oconnell st bridge should be limited to 4 lanes

    #734493
    tomk
    Participant

    Can I confirm about the article on the BX bridge that it will be built by 2010 for buses to use during Metro dig construction so as to minimise commuter disruption but that it will only be after Metro completion in 2013 that the Luas construction on it to link red and green lines will begin?

    #734494
    jimg
    Participant

    The BX bridge will be a disaster. It will destroy the context for O’Connell Street bridge. It will create a nasty break in in the pleasing (slight) regularity to the series of Liffey crossings which form the spine of the city.

    Allowing free reign to my suspicions, it’s obvious that the Roads and Traffic people in DCC have been intent on having a bridge at this location for many years. I seriously doubt that the “preferred” BX route is actually preferred by the RPA. I suspect that in order to “buy off” the strenuous and public objection from the DCC to linking the Luas lines, they came up with the dogs dinner plan (60% more expensive by the way than the the most obvious route) which incorporated this bridge. It’s obvious that DCC’s objections on the basis of their love and concern for O’Connell St. and the passage of busses around the end of Grafton St. were b*llox given that they’ve implicitly given their backing to this massively disruptive route which still involves digging up O’Connell St and going around the Nassau/Grafton St. corner. Once the RPA included the “bribe” of this bridge in a hacked together last-minute plan, DCC dropped their objections.

    I was hoping the obvious flaws with the suggested route would confine the idea to the bin where it belongs and initially things looked that way as further work on BX was deferred in favour of more pressing RPA work. Now it looks like the most objectionable part of the whole route F (the bridge) will be built without the principal reason for building it purely to satisfy the whimsy of some traffic engineers in DCC.

    What disgusts me is the state of O’Connell Bridge and I do not accept the excuse that we should wait ’til metro north is built to do something about it. It’s been in an embarassing state for decades. This bridge should be a centrepiece in the city and should be maintained and preserved as such in the way that similar structures are treated in cities which have any tiny bit of appreciation for historical fabric and are not run by a roads and traffic department. The BX bridge is actually completely typical; DCC devote so much energy and concern into procuring a “shiney new” bridge right beside the most important bridge in the city instead of putting a fraction of the effort into maintaining O’Connell Bridge in any form beyond the absolute bare minimum. All the marketing and PR w*nk from DCC about their aspirations for Dublin is shown up by their treatment of O’Connell Bridge. It is in awe that I try to imagine the size of the ego required to think that you could improve the one of the most important WSC set-pieces in the city by plonking another bridge 90m away destroying any remaining symmetry to it’s context. Meanwhile the existing bridge is in a foul state.

    #734495
    johnglas
    Participant

    If you give over urban planning to roads engineers, that’s what you get. (Remember all the ‘road widening’ that blighted city centres for years?) In my view, they should all be locked in a dark room and only let out when there’s a full moon (and then only when there’s a Z in the month).

    #734496
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @TomK wrote:

    Can I confirm about the article on the BX bridge that it will be built by 2010 for buses to use during Metro dig construction so as to minimise commuter disruption but that it will only be after Metro completion in 2013 that the Luas construction on it to link red and green lines will begin?

    That appears to be the case Tom.

    #734497
    urbanisto
    Participant

    T’was little commented on but sturdy old Butt Bridge finally got its ballustrades repaired and a much needed clean. Perhaps our comments here spurred the CC to some “routine maintenance”. It is most welcome. Must try and get some snaps.

    Its a shame that the awful tarmac paving here couldn’t be redone with some nice stone and I was thinking what a nice spot this would make for the four remaining concrete lampstands on D’Olier Street/ College Street. They could be removed (its happening already) repaired and places at either end as a nice feature. Surely a vast improvement on the ugly streetlamps currently in place.

    The next “routine maintenance” jon in relation to the bridges is to replace the feature lighting which seems to be rather neglected on many of the bridges – Joyce, O’Casey and Millennium being the most notable.

    #734498
    alonso
    Participant

    saw that and also saw a plastic barrier on one of them on Friday as it had disappeared. Think it’s gone now and we have a full bridge

    #734499
    JJ
    Participant

    Here’s a couple of pictures of the new Spencer Dock bridge showing progress and a view of the structure now the scaffolding has been removed. The best views of this bridge will be from the linear park or in the canal itself.
    JJ

    #734500
    missarchi
    Participant

    that metro west bridge bit the dust hard?

    #734501
    JJ
    Participant

    @missarchi wrote:

    that metro west bridge bit the dust hard?

    Pray tell. Has it been binned ?

    #734502
    CraigFay
    Participant

    A picture of the Spencer Dock bridge I took yesterday

    #734503
    johnglas
    Participant

    It’s an interesting-looking bridge (very sinuous and elegant), but the stuff lining the canal is just desperate; when it comes to corporate architecture a sense of place and even a lightness of touch seem just to evaporate. Dull, dull, dull, dull dull…

    #734504
    jdivision
    Participant

    john that will become a linear park when construction is completed. the bridge will open to pedestrains tomorrow afaik.

    #734505
    CraigFay
    Participant

    the bridge will open to pedestrains tomorrow

    Are you sure, cos doesn’t really look ready for it.

    #734506
    jdivision
    Participant

    So I was told by somebody involved. If you see it from above it’s pretty much done

    #734507
    cgcsb
    Participant

    the bridge is not open to pedestrians and probably won’t be until the end of the year when the tracks are connected from the bridge to mayor street

    #734508
    lostexpectation
    Participant

    http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/new-bridge-to-open-up-city-centre-1699894.html
    DUBLIN City Council is pushing ahead with a new multi- million-euro bridge over the River Liffey.

    It has invited “pre-qualification submissions” from contractors for the construction of the Marlborough St Public Transport Priority Bridge.

    Contractors must submit their tenders by May 15 next.

    The estimated value of the contract is from €8m to €12m, the tender documents say.

    Last Autumn, the Council said construction was due to commence in late 2009, but it is being funded under the Transport 21 programme and it is not clear if this timetable is being adhered to.

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