Betie’s (National Stadium) Bowl
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- June 4, 2002 at 11:51 am #719119
GregF
ParticipantDon’t all the stadia in both Japan and Korea look magnificent…including the pitches which have the quality of a bowling green…..they’ve done a wonderful job at providing top notch facilities…….
Come on IRELAND…up the Republic….
Erin go Bragh!June 4, 2002 at 12:15 pm #719120Rory W
ParticipantMy main point of contention is that the Koreans have built excellent stadia for $180 million each and we are looking at 2 to 3 times that for ours. I would just like to know why such a large difference in cost!
June 4, 2002 at 2:51 pm #719121kefu
ParticipantThe £1 billion cost for the Stadium Ireland project was very significantly exaggerated in the first place.
And it must be remembered includes the relocation of the State Laboratories, estimated at £140 million plus, the redevelopment of the existing infrastructure, the provision of a rail station at Abbotstown on the existing Maynooth train link, a 50-metre swimming pool, landscaped gardens over a vast area, huge amounts of office space and so on ad nauseum. The stadium itself would cost nowhere near the magical figures being put across by both the newspapers and opposition parties.
Also, most of the stadia in the Far East are of capacity between 40,000 to 60,000. The cost rises exponentially according to size and Stadium Ireland was supposed to be 80,000 though that will almost certainly be scaled down very significantly as part of the FF/PD negotiations.
I’d also be curious to know how much difference our inflated construction costs would make. I’m almost sure it would be cheaper to build a major project in Korea, but doubt that this would be the case in Japan.
I think crucially it is worth remembering that the stadium itself has never been put out to tender. There is no design, only a concept picture used by the management company. The tendering process would be the only true indicator of what we are actually talking about in terms of cost.June 4, 2002 at 2:55 pm #719122notjim
ParticipantSeoul is a funny city, there is lots of very impressive infra-structure, metro, stadiums, parks, art galleries, stuff you’d expect in a city of 10 million people but impressive because it has happened so quickly and so much was destroyed in the war. On the other hand there is little sign of planning. Most of the city is very homogenous, millions of empty bars, identical shops and cheap low-rise apartment blocks in bad condition. It is fun to visit because virtually everyone is 24 and it is filled with neon, the way the Korean district in NY is, but we shouldn’t feel to bad comparing ourselves to them, they are struggling with similar problems, maybe with more money and bigger challenges, but they seem to be having the same mixture of success and failure.
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