Bertie, any comments?
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WillC.
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- August 6, 2003 at 10:46 am #706366
Niall
ParticipantAhern’s personality.
“The thing about Bertie is, he hates having to make a decision, and will always put it off as long as possible. He likes to leave things as they are, unless they are very bad,”
This was attributed to a FF backbencher and seems to sum him up nicely.
Will we ever get sorted? Is Bertie the man to make the decisions?
- August 6, 2003 at 11:31 am #734903
sw101
Participantdoesnt this country realise that bertie is a gormless idiot that is doing us harm over good? i’ve heard him quoted as saying “i dont want those huge things in my constituency” with regard supertrucks that are coming into ireland with trade goods and above all else money. solution a la bertie and co? build a tunnel to let them mole it out of the city (surprisingly good idea), but build it too small so that the super super trucks cant use it (bad idea), thereby forcing them onto the roads of north dublin city again. solution a la bertie and co? propose to limit the height of trucks enterring this country all together. limiting trade, excluding certain markets, importers, suppliers, and sending this lucrative rolling stock and its trade to britain, where ppl are clever enough to accept it.
bertie
shortsighted
clumsy
bad leader
(sorry, my dads in the truck trade and i had to listen to his rant, so now you do too :))i know its off the point but who else finds the whole georgina ahern and fuckhead nicky thing a bit annoying. leave them go to france, do what the hell they want. the little guy can well afford it and i’d rather he stayed there and sang his rubbish tunes to destroy french egos forever!!
- August 6, 2003 at 12:09 pm #734904
urbanisto
ParticipantI have long ceased to be impressed by the celebrity status of Bertie and his clan….
However on the subject of the super trucks I am inclined to think taht the size of HGV on our roads should be limited. I am not sure why there is a need for larger trucks… the trucks we have used up to now have managed quite successfully. Anyhow, I think our effort should be going into getting more of that freight onto the rail network.
- August 6, 2003 at 12:29 pm #734905
sw101
Participantdont get me started on the rail network. i was waiting for 45 minutes at mallow the other day for the engine to disconnect, chug up to the other end of the track, and pull us in the other direction towards tralee. during this time there were three guys standing on the platform with gloves and shiny jackets on chatting. the entire time!! had they nothing else to do in a broken down station where fwek all seems to work and nothing runs on time. these guys are the reason it wud cost me 58 euro, i’ll say it again 58 EURO!!! to get to dublin and back if i didnt have my usit card. these are the ppl who do shag all all day then claim overtime because they didnt get to finish all there outstanding work. these guys are the reason coras iompar eireann should be ripped apart and do the chaff wheat thing, then reassemble an efficient progressive body with enthusiastic and capable workers who do a fair days work. get michael o’leary in charge if needs be.
as for big trucks, in this era of environmental conscience it makes good sense to send two guys in two trucks 1000 miles rather than three guys in three trucks 1000 miles. modern supertrucks are relatively efficient with fuel and efforts are always being made to make them cleaner and more eco-friendly. using power under braking etcetera. i dont think “we’ve managed alright so far” is going to get us anywhere. if it aint broke dont fix it is fine but if it aint broke i dont think we should hold back from tinkering with it and tweaking it into a competitive machine (where have all the metaphors gone?)
- August 6, 2003 at 12:31 pm #734906
bluefoam
ParticipantStephen,
The problem is that due to increased quantities being transported there is a requirement for large trucks to transport all the goods we require. Having one large truck rather than two small ones can reduce the cost of transport hugely and having one truck (whatever size) on our streets is definatly better than having two. Your arguement is very similar to the anti high-rise arguement. Just coz they are too big !?!
Damn it sw101 you got there before me!
- August 6, 2003 at 12:51 pm #734907
sw101
Participantnah nah na nah nah!!
what defines membership and senior membership? i was a junior member til recently. now i just feel downright slightly important.
with regards ur comment bluefoam, you’re right to draw comparisons. the solutions can be equated also. so long as consideration to impact is given, adequate provision is made for them, and people are willing to accept their necessity, mass transport and mass housing can both thrive.
- August 6, 2003 at 1:02 pm #734908
d_d_dallas
ParticipantBertie is a man obsessed with position and retaining power and as such he has no actual mandate – just what his focus groups tell him what sound bites he needs to make in the coming year. Ala New Labour across the waters.
The product of this type of leadeship can be seen with messes such as the port tunnell and nearly every other major project/system ever thought of in this country.
What we need are people who stand for election with legitimate beliefs and plans. You can’t be everyone’s pal, so make a stand with what you want for Ireland and if people vote for you you get in and try to implement your plans – if not well Bertie’s there with his focus groups anyway! - August 6, 2003 at 7:04 pm #734909
GrahamH
ParticipantI cannot stand Bertie Ahern, his inarticulate ramblings in press conferences alongside Tony Blair make me cringe in mortification, to such an extent that I have to change the channel.
The only positive contibution he appears to have made is describing Spencer Dock as ‘a monstrosity’ which I admit to finding highly amusing.
Take that Harry Crosbie! - August 6, 2003 at 8:07 pm #734910
WillC
ParticipantThanks lads. This thread has given me the chance to express my opinion about Bertie Ahern.
I HATE BERTIE AHERN (with a passion) .
That felt soooooo good to say. Almost orgasmic.
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