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@Radioactiveman wrote:
Now, now, lets not get carried away 😀
There’s certainly very strong feelings towards Heineken on this one. I don’t think purchase by the city will help matters. Just take a look at ChristChurch across the road from the brewery…its been closed off for more than a year. Nothing being done, and in my view the security of the building itself is threatened. We were promised a music venue as an addition to the Triskel. In who’s lifetime is this going to emerge??
I don’t want to see Beamish going the same way.Point taken; we elect out Councillors, who in turn support any rubbish the city manager proposes…we get what we deserve i suppose?
The Examiner reports today that the fight to save Beamish & Crawford is being taken to Heineken HQ in Amsterdam by the National Conservation & Heritage Group.
Posters to this forum will know from my past posts that I had little time for Mick Murphy and his Communities for Sustainable Development group, but now I have to 😮 admit that he was proved right with regard to apartment development in Bishopstown and other suburban areas of Cork, many of which are lying empty.
I wish him and the NCHG the very best of luck in their efforts to save the Beamish & Crawford brewery.
:(Most of the press report the last day of Beamish & Crawford today.
Feck Heineken NV and their Irish puppets in Murphy’s brewery.
I will never drink a drop of Heineken slop again.@kite wrote:
:(Most of the press report the last day of Beamish & Crawford today.
Feck Heineken NV and their Irish puppets in Murphy’s brewery.
I will never drink a drop of Heineken slop again.You better stay away from Amstel, Bulmers, and Strongbow while you’re at it. And of course, you must never attend Oxegen or watch the Heineken Cup. Good Luck!
@rumpelstiltskin wrote:
You better stay away from Amstel, Bulmers, and Strongbow while you’re at it. And of course, you must never attend Oxegen or watch the Heineken Cup. Good Luck!
Ah Jeesus, don’t tell me that those Orange feckers brew Bulmers as well?
Just tried a pint bottle of that and thought i had found a ‘new home’!!Another new quarter for Cork it appears! Glad to hear there’s some plan for the site in any case.
Dutch courage: Plans for €150m Brewery Quarter
A €150-million Brewery Quarter tourism and cultural investment is planned for the heart of Cork city, on the four-acre site vacated in 2009 by the historic firm Beamish and Crawford.
http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/dutch-courage-plans-for-150m-brewery-quarter-139495.html
[attachment=2:y5q541wh]Brewery Quarter Scale Model.jpg[/attachment:y5q541wh]
[attachment=1:y5q541wh]Night South Gate Bridge CGI.jpg[/attachment:y5q541wh]
[attachment=0:y5q541wh]Counting House Plaza CGI.jpg[/attachment:y5q541wh]
https://archiseek.com/2010/plans-submitted-for-the-development-of-beamish-crawford-brewery-cork/
Got to say that the “counting house” looks like a dollshouse tacked on to the front of that scheme. Really want to see the drawings to judge this better as the renderings are overly slick and cliched – whats the red neon stripe on the river side view?
an events centre doesn’t make any sense on this site.
commercially, i assume it would depend on drawing crowds from the whole munster region. most of these customers will drive there. the site is a disaster to access for cars, and there is nowhere to park. nearby streets such as south main street and barrack street will be overwhelmed.
most importantly, i cannot see how such substantial develop can proceed without destroying the archeology under the site. i’d love to see if there are any reactions to this proposal on any archeology forums.
can we please just have one events centre in the city. o’callaghan applied for permission 2 or 3 weeks ago for his scheme on albert quay. god only knows what is happening to the proposed centre at the atlantic quarter, which is the location and design i prefer
btw, i cannot see the link for attaching photos to posts anymore. does it still exist? i can see the IMG button, but that doesn’t work for my own photos?
i have a photo of the echo’s story on the matterhttp://issuu.com/tcmeditorial/docs/echofrontpage/1
here is link to tonight’s echo front page.
i think it will expire in 24 hours, as they don’t publish onlineBe very interested to see the Council reaction – there’s significant industrial archaeology behind the counting house before even getting underground. And as for the riverside parts – the city development plan gives pretty strict requirements for heights along the river (which this appears to happily ignore) and the pocket park required for the south channel seems to have vanished.
Agree about the location for an events centre too – O’Callaghans seems best located to me – close to bus and rail stations, car parks and road network, as well as giving a further boost to moving towards the Docklands. Where on earth has this come from?
Going by the artist’s impressions I could only call this proposed development an eyesore. Totaly out of character and scale with the area and surrounding the old Counting House with a garish and over-tall bunch of concrete and glass blocks.
Yes, this is a strange concoction of the worst kind of planning. A couple of sticks of trees, which puts paid to any talk of a park. This plan was drawn up as if the boom had never bust.
The design leaves a lot to be desired.
I do think that the site is better for an event centre than O’Callaghan’s proposal though.
It provides better access to bars and restaurants in the city, which should mean an opportunity to keep visitors spending in the city.
Regarding access, there is probably more parking available around this proposal, although the other one is better for the train station and to a lesser extent the bus station. Against that, a lot number of the events would probably attract a significant student audience and the Beamish site is within easy walking distance of UCC and has direct bus services to the CIT area.
lets not lose sight of the positives contained in the proposal;
The main one for me is the continuation of Tuckey Street through the site to connect to Wandesford Quay – this is an excellent urban move that has the potential to re-activate that portion of the river and the city quarter beyond.
there also seems to be a move to keep the commercial activity on the street rather that swallow it up in a shopping mall megalith. The site model shows three to five separate buildings with public streets between.
the proposal seems to embrace it’s riverside position with the inclusion of a short promenade and active river frontage, something other large commercial developments in the city have overlooked (see Merchant’s Quay)
there is talk of retaining brewing and cultural activity on siteall that said, the images also show a disregard for the scale of the built environment, like a fat girl in a clingy dress they’re clearly trying to overload the site with floorspace at the expense of a good fit and the result is unattractive, though to continue the analogy such shoe-horning can be and have been disguised with shiny sequins and/or exceptionally large displays of cleavage/merchandise. in the end, the CCC must play the Maitre’D, and while the big girl in the clingy dress is likely to spend a lot of money in the restaurant, she’s hardly the most desirable clientele…
The masterplans are on display to the public in the Counting House on Wednesday i believe
@Ping Pong wrote:
The masterplans are on display to the public in the Counting House on Wednesday i believe
thats wednesday january 19th
the proposed development will be on display in the Counting House tomorrow
Dean of St. Fin Barre’s reported in today’s Irish Examiner
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/dean-to-challenge-beamish-site-design-142459.html
ps. I wish to agree with posters who feel that this proposal is totally wrong for the Beamish site.
Heineken in Holland spend a lot of time, money and effort to promote the Heineken brewing museum in that country; pity they have total disregard for Irish heritage.
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