Arnotts
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- December 31, 2005 at 2:52 am #713389
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InactiveI can make it out but it is a good inch higher than the arrow
December 31, 2005 at 3:21 am #713390Devin
ParticipantLooking at the building now from the same spot as that 1916 pic might help (bearing in mid the other changes) – I might do that tomorrow if I’m nearby.
Graham, if there is another picture where as you say it is definitely visible, well that will nail it.
December 31, 2005 at 3:33 am #713391GrahamH
ParticipantIndeed – I’ll try and get a photocopy.
But the extending of the interior columns into the 60s part to the width of the tower does it for me – take a look.
It’s difficult (not least without looking suspicious), there’s only one or two columns left, and you tend to lose your bearings with the lamppost marker outside once when you go in – but it is possible 🙂December 31, 2005 at 4:49 am #713392Devin
ParticipantOk – will do that too.
January 1, 2006 at 11:34 pm #713393geraghtyg
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OK, very small pic I know. Apologies. I took this snapshot from the fascinating program about the Moore St Traders originally broadcast way back in 1974 but shown again last week. Credit for this pic is with RTE. Now the pic is of the site now occupied by the Ilac Centre. Question is, the building toward the top left of the pic with the dome, is this Arnotts or possibly Jervis hospital. I first thought it was Arnotts but I think there are too many windows, bay wise. And it looks like the Guiness buildings behind it so this would not be right. Jervis seems to the candidate then? Anyone have any ideas? Sorry for possibly going off-topic. I don’t really think this warranted a new thread.
Thanks
Graham
January 1, 2006 at 11:51 pm #713394Morlan
ParticipantBigger picture for you:
January 1, 2006 at 11:59 pm #713395geraghtyg
ParticipantThanking you Morlan – Don’t know why it’s so small in the post by myself. Should’ve came out bigger.
January 2, 2006 at 2:07 am #713396GrahamH
ParticipantYou can see it very clearly in the image posted by Devin above.
The huge hulk of a grey box to the left would appear to be the rear end of Roches, if that puts any bearing on things – assuming that’s it of course…
If so, the red building would have stood at the top of Liffey St, behind/on the current site of the ILAC entrance.January 2, 2006 at 3:39 am #713397Devin
ParticipantYes, that building is also mentioned in the caption of the picture from Lost Dublin (last picture in Post 38, above). It says: ‘To the right … is the dome, surmounted by a flagpole, of the Henry Street Warehouse Company latterly known as Denmark House, Little Denmark Street, an early steel-framed building which was demolished in 1976’. Lost Dublin was published 1981 – Little Denmark Street was of course subsequently wiped out for the ILAC.
Once you know what the mystery building is you can see what the other things are: back of Roches on the left as Graham said; the ugly back of the Jervis Hospital behind the Denmark St. building; Pennys’ excellent Baroque dome to the right; and the blurry spire & tower to the right of that would be the Augustinian church, Thomas St., & the Four Courts.
geraghtyg, is the picture a digital grab or a photo of the tv screen? – it’s quite good if it’s a photo!
January 2, 2006 at 5:21 am #713398Paul Clerkin
KeymasterSpot on Devin….
January 2, 2006 at 5:55 pm #713399geraghtyg
ParticipantThanks a million for explaining all that Devin. All makes sense now. And I did need to see that pic from post 38 to get my bearings. To be honest, I never even new there used to be a street where the Ilac is now. Presumably this would have linked Dominick and Liffey Streets???
Anyway, regarding where I got the image from: I recorded the program from digital TV onto the hard drive of my DVD recorder, then copied it onto DVD, loaded up the dvd onto my PC and using my editing program, took a frame grab and posted it on here. Quality of picture and sound is excellent as the original film footage was restored. There are many fascinating scenes in this program of Moore St, Smithfield and surrounding areas. I actually have a good few other screen grabs saved to my PC as I have created DVD covers and images to print onto the DVDs themselves to make them look better as I intend to keep this program for archive purposes. I could post up more here if anyone is interested although I’m not sure what the story with doing that is, copyright wise.
Graham
January 10, 2006 at 8:44 am #713400Devin
ParticipantYeah, definitely! I often find myself watching old stuff on telly & going ‘it would be good to get access to that’. Like that Frankie Byrne documentary that was on RTE last night – there were some interesting views of O’Connell Street and the Quays in colour, showing all the buildings that have since been demolished & replaced at the west end of Bachelor’s Walk.
The old series’ of Hands are good as well. You get background scenes of Irish towns, and every building still has its sash windows – and they were only filmed in the ’70s & ’80s! (i.e. before PVC blight! 🙁 )
January 10, 2006 at 8:57 am #713401Devin
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I came across this interesting picture of Henry Street in the ’70s (left); and the same view today (right) – Roches on the extreme right in both pictures. The gap just beyond Roches in the ’70s pic would be the no-longer-existing Denmark Street already mentioned.
January 10, 2006 at 10:22 am #713402geraghtyg
ParticipantGood to see Denmark St, well the beginning of it anyway. And I have to say that the street looks really nice with the palm trees and benches. Almost looks mediterranean until you look at the shopfronts, that is.
OK, well when I get a chance, I’ll post up a few more frame grabs if I can find any shots of interest.January 10, 2006 at 7:23 pm #713403GrahamH
ParticipantWhat a bizarre photograph! Out of interest, what the heck started that craze for palm trees in the 70s? Package holidays?!
No suburban house of the era is complete without one in the middle of the front lawn.One interesting snippet of info about Little Denmark Street is that in 1926 2RN, Ireland’s first broadcasting service (later Radio
January 10, 2006 at 7:39 pm #713404geraghtyg
ParticipantFunny you should mention the radio broadcasts from the GPO. Main lock on the door in my house is actually the original lock to the Radio Eireann studios or whatever they had back then. Fine big lock and fantastic looking key.
January 10, 2006 at 7:58 pm #713405GrahamH
ParticipantReally?! Got a pic? Yes there were proper studios in there by the time the GPO opened. It was refurbished again in the 50s, when shudder-inducing gloss painted partitions with bubbled glass went in to the office section. The place was falling down round their ears by the time Donnybrook beckoned.
January 10, 2006 at 8:09 pm #713406geraghtyg
ParticipantIf you mean a pic of the studios, then no. Lock looks quite normal in the door – It has been in the door for a few decades now I reckon. If you want some pics of the lock and key, it could be arranged. If that is what you looking for pics of, that is.
Graham
January 10, 2006 at 8:12 pm #713407GrahamH
ParticipantJust the lock – if it’s interesting like 🙂
What it’s got to do with Arnotts now….January 10, 2006 at 11:31 pm #713408Devin
Participant@Graham Hickey wrote:
Out of interest, what the heck started that craze for palm trees in the 70s? Package holidays?!
No suburban house of the era is complete without one in the middle of the front lawn.Lol! It was definitely the jetset influence, & popularity of programmes like Hawaii 5-0!
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