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  • #757033
    ctesiphon
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    @tjomeara wrote:

    Ctesiphon

    The NIAH are only publishing structures on the web that are considered to be of ‘Regional’ importance and above. Search for Waterford under the ‘town’ in the Waterford Survey on the NIAH website. I think around 900 sites were rated as being of ‘Regional’ importance and above in and around Waterford City.

    TJ-

    Thanks for that clarification- though I’d be of the opinion that in order to decide what buildings are Regional, it is necessary to survey everything first, not just the ones that appear to be Regional on a cursory inspection. But then again, I’d be of the old school where the NIAH methodology is concerned, and we all know how much got published in the (ahem) formative years… :rolleyes:

    #757034
    ctesiphon
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    @lexington wrote:

    ๐Ÿ™‚ Thankfully the building’s proprietors enlisted Shane Construction to given the fading glory of this structure a new lease on life. The fabulous traditional brickwork has been revealed once again, the details of the design uncovered, the history reborn – unfortunately the image below fails to focus the individual brickwork and so on, however, I will try to get a better quality image in the future. The building reflects the refurbishment of nearby Fenn’s Quay – among Ireland’s oldest original terraced houses still in full show. It begs questions as to what lies beneath the unsightly paint skins of other surrounding structures?

    I’m wondering, did this building benefit from sponsored shroud advertising, or was the work carried out without such input, i.e. by an enlightened client? (Ref. thread below.)

    https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=4024

    #757035
    sw101
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    nice segue.

    #757036
    tjomeara
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    @ctesiphon wrote:

    TJ-

    Thanks for that clarification- though I’d be of the opinion that in order to decide what buildings are Regional, it is necessary to survey everything first, not just the ones that appear to be Regional on a cursory inspection. But then again, I’d be of the old school where the NIAH methodology is concerned, and we all know how much got published in the (ahem) formative years… :rolleyes:

    Yeah, that’s it ctesiphone. A full survey takes years and in that time many structures would be lost. The NIAH are currently involved in a primary, rapid survey for each county. It is in no way a definitive list. After the initial survey is complete I would imagine a more thorough national one will follow. All a matter of stages…

    #757037
    lexington
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    @ctesiphon wrote:

    I’m wondering, did this building benefit from sponsored shroud advertising, or was the work carried out without such input, i.e. by an enlightened client? (Ref. thread below.)

    https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=4024

    No such advertising ctesiphon – the brickwork really is attractive. As I said, it’s difficult to make out the detail in the posted image. It’s amazing to see what had been hidden under so much tack for so many years. I would actively encourage other proprietors along North Main Street and South Main Street (2 of Cork’s oldest streets by far) to embrace the same revitalisation of their buildings.

    #757038
    GrahamH
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    It’s looking a bit shell-shocked after that stripping down – as buildings tend to ๐Ÿ™‚

    The cornice looks very strange up there in the context of the brick work; presumably left over from the plastering job?
    Attractive nonetheless, and an especially welcome retention if helps convey the architectural history of the building.

    @lexington wrote:

    Where did the idea for the green paint come from though – is it left over from pre-restoration?! It’s kinda quirky all the same, but perhaps a cream scheme, matching the render band above the ground floor would look just that bit better ๐Ÿ™‚

    The sashes in this pic appear to have no horns which make them a bit clinical-looking – maybe they are extant and visible in ‘real life’.

    #757039
    Radioactiveman
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    Here’s a picture of this building prior to recent renovation. I believe from late 2003.

    I think lex may have exagerated the condition it was in previously:
    “For years this building has been smothered in a series of unflattering and dogish paint coats. From Mustard Yellow to Tangerine.”

    Also, here’s some more images of the GPO on Oliver Plunkett Street.


    And while i’m at it, an image of more bow-fronted buildings. This time on the Grand Parade end of Oliver Plunkett Street (No’s 76 and 77)..

    Finally, a fabulous building further down the street. A remnant of an industrial past.

    #757040
    GrahamH
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    Those bow-fronts are just fantastic!
    The windows marching into the distance on the GPO is very attractive too.

    As for the restored building – ah ๐Ÿ™‚

    The cornice is clearly just another bizarre feature peculiar to that mad city of yours ๐Ÿ˜€
    Have to say though that the chequered brickwork is quite attractive in its gritty urban state in that pic.

    #757041
    Devin
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    Cork is great for bow-fronts & curving buildings.
    They are practically non-existent in Dublin – unless you count that one that curves from Lincoln Place into Merrion St., beside the Ullyses chemist.

    #757042
    altuistic
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    @Radioactiveman wrote:

    Here’s a picture of this building prior to recent renovation. I believe from late 2003.

    I think lex may have exagerated the condition it was in previously:

    the building was painted until early 98 when it was stripped to brickwork again prbably the reason for many of its odd colorations. Musterd and a series of dastardly other colors did adorn this structure over the years. I have been looking at it every day for the last 23 years since i moved home from the states.

    #757043
    ctesiphon
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    @Devin wrote:

    Cork is great for bow-fronts & curving buildings.
    They are practically non-existent in Dublin – unless you count that one that curves from Lincoln Place into Merrion St., beside the Ullyses chemist.

    There’s also that one at the top of Dawson Street- used to be the sewing shop, now the tourist whiskey shop (and if that ain’t a metaphor for our culture…), with those elegant shallow bows above ground floor level.

    And the one opposite Enfo on Andrew’s Street- just a curving terrace, but worth mentioning as they are so unusual in the Dublin context, as you say.

    Again, sorry everyone for Dublining up a Cork thread- but it arises from our jealousy of your felicitous sweeps. ๐Ÿ™‚

    #757044
    Radioactiveman
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    @altuistic wrote:

    Musterd and a series of dastardly other colors did adorn this structure over the years. I have been looking at it every day for the last 23 years since i moved home from the states.

    God help you ๐Ÿ™‚
    I stand corrected though.

    @ctesiphon wrote:

    Again, sorry everyone for Dublining up a Cork thread- but it arises from our jealousy of your felicitous sweeps. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Work away, we’re very good like that in cork ๐Ÿ™‚

    #757045
    ctesiphon
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    @Radioactiveman wrote:

    Work away, we’re very good like that in cork ๐Ÿ™‚

    Aah- that famous Leeside modesty. ๐Ÿ™‚

    #757046
    Andrew Duffy
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    the tourist whiskey shop

    … is actually the best-stocked spirits seller in the country, and fairly reasonably priced too. The staff put those in the stuffy Mitchell’s one street over to shame.

    #757047
    GrahamH
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    @Andrew Duffy wrote:

    stuffy Mitchell’s

    Hmmm, another building with a curved window. How very strange…

    #757048
    Devin
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    @ctesiphon wrote:

    There’s also that one at the top of Dawson Street- used to be the sewing shop, now the tourist whiskey shop (and if that ain’t a metaphor for our culture…), with those elegant shallow bows above ground floor level.

    That’s a lovely facade…..very provincial English. A girl was asking about it a while ago, if anyone can help – https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=2551&highlight=Dawson – (when she says windows, I presume she means the bows)

    #757049
    Anonymous
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    @Radioactiveman wrote:

    Here’s a picture of this building prior to recent renovation. I believe from late 2003.

    I think lex may have exagerated the condition it was in previously:
    “For years this building has been smothered in a series of unflattering and dogish paint coats. From Mustard Yellow to Tangerine.”

    Also, here’s some more images of the GPO on Oliver Plunkett Street.


    And while i’m at it, an image of more bow-fronted buildings. This time on the Grand Parade end of Oliver Plunkett Street (No’s 76 and 77)..

    Finally, a fabulous building further down the street. A remnant of an industrial past.

    There are more than a few buildings I can think of that could do with a similar treatment

    #757050
    lexington
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    Post keeps failing to load each time I attempt. Will leave it for now and try to get back to it later.

    The post regards the buildings of Parnell Place, with images – including 93 South Mall, the Trust Savings Bank, those unfortunate and shamefully neglected Beasely facades and that beautiful ‘Doll’s House’ between the TSB and Crown Centre – just like the house on Emmett Place, its a beautiful and rare example of another era of architecture (which one I’m not sure) – but the design and detail are just beautiful!

    Will try and get back to this.

    #757051
    Devin
    Participant

    This is an entry from a ‘Buildings at Risk’ publication for Cork* for the Parnell Place/South Mall buldings (also pic here posted by d_d_dallas on Page 1: https://archiseek.com/content/attachment.php?attachmentid=812 ) :

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    The Camden Quay houses mentioned on Page1 were for the chop at one point too ๐Ÿ˜ฎ :

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    Also, a rear view – from ‘Citi Car Park’ – of the slate-hung bow-fronted houses on Grand Parade….remains of funny rear site building with vaulting :

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    * Cork’s Built Heritage by C.P. Hunter & S. Hunter, 2001

    #757052
    lexington
    Participant

    I agree Devin that the facades at 17 & 18 Parnell Place have been shamefully neglected. A hotel is currently proposed for the vacant site to the rear. In all fairness, the proposal is most sympathetic to the facades, revamping and incorporating them into the new structure – with a plesant slated roof spanning both structures. The application is currently in Further Information – but I should hope that it is successful as I look forward to the day when these beautiful structures are returned to their former glory. The central arched window of No.17 can be visualized in my head illuminated butter yellow from a internal light source, revitalising and reinstating a level of window detail that is long lost on so many modern projects. The facades would make a fine frontage. My worry is, and anyone who recently has seen these facades may also agree, is that the current state of the structures is such that one wonders whether or not they will survive the period the hotel application seems to be taking through planning!!! Their loss would be unforgiveable.



    As for Camden Quay, those buildings were purchased by OSB Group, and have been retained and will be refurbished as part of the works on the Camden Court project to their rear. One of the buildings currently homes offices of James Leahy & Associates, the architects responsible for Camden Court’s interesting design. Noteworthy also is the characteristic olde-worlde Maud Whelan’s Pub (north along John Redmond Street, beside these buildings) which is also being refurbished and given a new lease of life as we speak. If anyone has images of that building, it would be nice to see it posted.

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