an taisce-and rumours of them going bust
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Diaspora – I know, I know the majority of Braveheart was made in Ireland.
But then Mel Gibson was made in Australia.
Welcome to the International Front.
…………….and you can fuck off as well S.I.
only kidding mate, you know I love you .
Cheques in the post.
I always knew that bit in Braveheart when the Scots and Irish team up against the English was bollocks.
Wow – this must be the biggest “handbags at dawn” thread ever. Wonderful to read the contrasting wit, reason, sarcasm, profanity, generalisation and personal abuse as the one piece. Well done to all concerned!
Nothing that a little government budgetary cutback couldn’t start. Restoration of the excellent Bowler & Clerkin is all I want.
Thats if they want to return.
and bugger all talk about architecture!!!! ha,ha…only jokin!!!! ( had to say that before i got abused)
Diaspora,
now that you have displayed admiration for Edinburgh, my neutral stance may have to be altered.
🙂
This thread is not about Architecture, it is about An Taisce and people letting off steam against them.
Not that is a bad thing, it is interesting to compare the methods used in doing so.
Not a Hibs man then Space-Invader?
Scotlands oldest Irish Club?
AOH in the states another fine institution.,
Originally posted by alan d
The renovation option was given serious merit but apart from the 2nd year student who was sent by An Taisce in Dublin and listed 200 buildings as being of historis worth, including an O’Neil’s Original Irish Tavern built in 1994 no one else thought it worth keeping.really? thats a gag for P45 for next week…
have you proofCan you hold that until Monday Paul I want to clarify that as well. 😮
hello again ireland. entertaining thread right enough but i think the war memorial postings are even better.
Still spewing out sarcasm and resent towards and taisce I see, Fin.
Not withstanding the fact that an taisce should be more supportive of modern architecture, an architects discussion forum is not particularly the best place to be having a go at the organisation. After all, the institute representing professional architects feels more or less the same as an taisce about one off housing (the issue that has earned it all the controversy). But an taisce is the only one Really sticking its neck out on the issue and so is incurring the venomous hatred of gombeen clientilist county councillors and estate agents up and down the country (and by proxy their constituents and customers). But that’s understanable. We are a post-colonial nation in its infancy.’Put a beggar on horseback’ and he builds a dormer- windowed Georgian bungalow on an elevated site in the raw Irish landscape.
As for you Fin why dont you go to the next Irish Rural Dwellers Association meeting (preferably chaired by michael healy rae). You would make lots of friends there and be able to share hate stories about an t.
I accept Fin’s Theory on one off houses: namely that the majority of them are not for people living locally but are generally built as as second ‘holiday’ homes.
I very much doubt that Fin or ANY contributor to this site designs the type of house you are talking about Devin. We are all opposed to pastiche architecture of that I am positive.
It is comparing those who disagree with An Taisce to Michael Healy Rae that has the organisation in its present difficulties.
An Taisce does not like taking asbuse, however it does not mind having its negative aspects expressed in a logical way. That you did Fin and I thank you for that.
It is comments like the above that have made the organisation unpopular in much of rural Ireland. That is something An Taisce has got to rectify, it is my priority over 2004 to work on policies that benefit rural Ireland.
Expect a very different PR spin as John Bowler continues to effect the changes in policy signalled quietly last September.
John has agreed a new form of employment of which I only know that he is ensuring the organisation gets the highest standards of PR.
what exactly is an taisces position on one-off housing? are they just against it in general or insistent on higher standards?
i had a client approach me after the new year looking for a design for an exposed rural site. he had a small engineering firm draw up a pokey americana pile from a rough sketch he made, and the planner had one look and told him to bugger off and find an architect, recommending me 🙂 visited the site and had a look around. given the rubbish thats been thrown up on the cliffs and hills there in the last 10 years i’m amazed all the planners arent blind. still, never too late for taste to take a hold on em. my options now are to dig a pit and fill it with house, or just give it a big grassy dome roof and lower the eaves to knee height. love my job.
an taisce, please, be gentle
ahh! planners don’t seem to particularily like those houses either sw101 unfortunately. best of luck though. would be nice to start a precedent.
devin ur a blind fool. but one has to deal with all sorts really.
disapora…nice one and good luck on that.well hello again lads…or lasses really (because you never know when people pretend to be something they’re not).
Before you get your yellowing combinations in a twist Diaspora and now Devin it seems, Irish theme bar?……on the west coast of Ireland? built in 1994? if that sounds plausible to you then we really are in a lot of trouble.
Hey Paul, I’m flattered. From the great joker himself.
Shaggy,
It sounds like the site is zoned for residential development if a planner recommended an architect. A specific architect being recommended sounds even more reassuring.
The An Taisce policy on development of residential properties is as high a density as possible that is why apartments and groups of houses are seen as prefferential. In general but not exclusively.
Good luck with it and I hope that far from designing in an over-sensitive manner, that you can set a positive precedent for the area. I have always found landscaping most important in similar situations.
Alan D,
Regarding the Bar in Sligo it sounds like a comical situation if my interpretation of the building is correct. Namely that it is a pastiche ‘Oirish’ type bar with many of the all too common design errors. Thank Michael Flattley, I am sure the architect behind it will get an invitation to the opening of a particular Las Vegas casino in 2004.
But I am not convinced that the student was ever on the payroll of An Taisce. Furthermore the now presumably graduated student does not work for An Taisce at the current time.
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