an taisce-and rumours of them going bust
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i don’t agree with that. some are fairly reasonable seemingly..and the gaa aren’t….
and yes ribbon development is not desirable but that comes about from people buying sites from the farmers for holiday homes. this is what the guidlines are intended to stop and not people building on their own land. there will always be some ribbon development as by it’s nature farms are outside towns and the farmer finds it not only necessary to build by the road but it’s another guideline!!!!
ahhhh! easily done.aran islands/aran island….! as far as the islands are concerned i think thatti should be encouraged for people to build as to bring the population up.(within reason… despite what a.t. in general thinks we as architect’s don’t want to ruin special areas like that)
these areas should be monitored by the co.co. and shouldn’t need outside help but if that is all a.t. did then there would be no problem.
“The point re the water quality of Lough Corrib you raised yesterday is of concern to everyone” i was fishing there recently enough and i only caught 1 trout. didn’t really mind cos it was a drinking session rather than serious fishing but i take that point.Diaspora
You remind me of the priest from Father Ted, you know the one played by Graham Norton who sings bohemian rhapsody when their all trapped underground to keep spirits up.
Impervious to anything anyone says, blindly sure of his position and untouchable
That illustrates your understanding of Ireland, and lack of respect for anything.
It was the late Dermot Morgan that played Fr Ted Crilly.
I am attempting to have a reasoned discussion with Fin, on the issues. Not like yourself who wouldn’t comment on anything specific, not even the finer points of your own arguments.
Fin,
I agree that in an ideal World it would be great if local authorities monitored their areas in accordance with their mandates. But since the abolition of residential rates in 1977 by CJ Haughey local authorities have faced serious funding deficits.
The grants made by Noel Dempsey were an acknowledgement that the system needed an external monitor of the development process.
well this new tax on houses may have been the nail in ur coffin in a way as it gives lacol authorities a lot more money…
I don’t think so, it will a lead to a drop in development as a disincentive to develop anything.
Secondly unless the costs of benchmarking are addressed these levies will probably not be sufficient to cover the shortfall.
The 9% commercial stamp duty was another own goal.
Both of these could be self defeating in terms of overall revenue receipts :confused:
That is exactly why we need to monitor them, I think a lot of the problems are purely down to inadequate resourcing.
That is where An Taisce is strongest, a clearing house where all large development is sent, 95% is given one glance and ignored. The other 5% is followed up and changes sought to development applications.
Where it is an even more necessary organisation is in situations where completely unsanctioned development is carried out. Such as diesel washing facilities, sludge pits etc. An Taisce persues many of these environmental hazards to the level of enforcement.
Diaspora,
He was referring to a specific priest in the Father Ted programme, who was indeed played by Graham Norton.
Last time I checked, I don’t think you have to be Irish to watch a programme that was first aired on Channel 4.as i said if was restricted to environmental issues then there would be no problem however it’s not. it gets involved with planning issues and all sorts of design where it’s not specifically experienced in and therefore make up reasons that can only be described as unbelieveable to object to anything they don’t like. it is open to personal interpretation and that’s not good enough for an supposedly unbiased government organisation. and before u say ur not.. u got grants from the gov so u were. not now though!!!
and devin…. poor devin. i thought i lost you with the use of all those big words. if you want us to use less demanding words please tell us.
That is correct Kefu,
And a great series it was too, if memory serves me correct RTE were offered Fr Ted first and refused it. Because they were not properly funded at that time. A bit like most local authorities and An Taisce’s current grant cut.
No doubt it was revenge for Dermot’s legendary Scrap Saturday.
Fin,
AnTaisce have two Members of the Royal Town Planning Institute who handle their largest planning submissions. They are eminently qualified to express opinions.
Everything concerning architecture is open to personnal interpretation, particularly the principal architects vision. It is when that personnal interpretation goes that one ends up with 1950’s East German architecture.
Originally posted by Diaspora
AnTaisce have two Members of the Royal Town Planning Institute who handle their largest planning submissions. They are eminently qualified to express opinions.ok now i’ll say it. u are like the brits….
Originally posted by Diaspora
Everything concerning architecture is open to personnal interpretation, particularly the principal architects vision. It is when that personnal interpretation goes that one ends up with 1950’s East German architecture.so are all ur members qualified to have such personal interpretations as to be able to distuinguish between good and bad architecture? how do u define good and bad architecture?
The RTPI is a highly respected and possibly the best qualification in it’s field. Both of their degrees from the National University UCD.
What constitutes good design?
I thought thats what this forum was all about?
It is only about 5% of the largest 10% of developments and very rarely smaller scale developments that An Taisce make any submission. Very often it is only a specific or small number of grounds that An Taisce wish to see alterations in a proposed development.
Where individual members are not qualified planners any submission must be made by a County planning committee, on all committees there are qualified built environment professionals.
i was asking u personally.
yes but all baulk at the sight on a submission by an taisce. and even if it is discointed it will almost invariably go to an bord.A Bord that we all accept the decision of, It is frustrating to have objections levelled against a proposal. But when it goes to An Bord Pleannalla you have the opportunity to refute any aspect of an initial decision and/or objection.
The 1976 act was the best change in planning removing ministerial influence, and there were some bad ministers for local government, Blaney, Tulley.
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