An Irish National Stadium!
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Looks like the vital decision today on the redevelopment of Lansdowne Road may be postponed, according to some reports; I hope I’m wrong ….(ah sure why the rush …tis taken 5 years till now).
Don’t really blame the GAA I suppose for the banning of ”foreign sports” from it’s sacred turf (that was grown in England). But they are in competition with the Rugger and Soccer for future budding sporting athletes and the protection and the safe continuation and develpment of the Irish National games.
Tis full of contradictions however, is’nt it …..allowing American Football ( a derivative of English Rugby) in, yet banning both the Irish National Teams of Soccer and Rugby….The Soccer team who plays the Irish National Anthemn yet consists of 26 counties and the Rugby Team that consist of the full 32 county Ireland but who don’t play the National Anthemn at times for PC reasons…and I suppose rightly so too. Yet both teams wave the flag of the Irish Republic….the same flag that Pearse & Co hoisted over the GPO in 1916, an event of Irish history which all GAA heads worship. Full of contradictions eh! …tis no wonder we don’t have a Stadium for all sports…..and it may take another few years or more to come about.If Landsdowne is developed, what is to happen to the two old club houses beside the west stand? Are they for the chop?
“The Irish-based expert, who agreed to talk solely on the basis that his name would not be revealed, is a planning and engineering consultant with a significant background in the forward planning of major sports infrastructure. He has followed the stadium saga since its infancy and is well versed in all aspects of the debate.”
If this unamed source is as qualified as he says he is then (in my humble opinion) he is surely working for Magahy and Co on sports campus Ireland, surely they employ the most qualified people to do the job – such as Irish based experts.
Talk about a political answer – as in Yes the PD’s got their way (and in this case the better answer methinks) – but No – Bertie is getting a “school of excellence” in Abbotstown so it’s win/win.
or lose/lose…whatever your take is on the situation. personally i think none of them could score in a whorehouse.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0127/stadium.html
“The Government has announced plans to develop Lansdowne Road in Dublin as the country’s new National Stadium.
The final cost of the stadium has been estimated in the region of €300 million, and is expected to be completed by 2008.
The Minister for Sport, John O’Donoghue, has said that he does not foresee any major problems with the new stadium getting planning permission.
Today’s announcement has been welcomed by the IRFU and the FAI, both of which have committed to the project.
The Government has also committed itself to the development – when money is available – of a new sport campus involving an indoor arena at Abbottstown.
No money wasted – Ahern
The Taoiseach has denied that money had been wasted on the Abbotstown project.
Bertie Ahern told the Dáil that feasibility studies had been carried out, and that these would be useful in the future development of sports facilities on the site.
He said that while some existing facilities had been moved from Abbotstown, they would have to have been moved anyway as they required more space.
Mr Ahern added that Campus Stadium Ireland would remain the owner of the site, and would continue to develop sports facilities there.
Mr Ahern was responding to Socialist Party TD Joe Higgins, who claimed that by pushing ahead in a ‘bull headed manner’ against the best advice, the Taoiseach had caused a huge waste of taxpayers’ money.”
Nah the un-named consulants got nothing, finally the Abbotstown proposal is dead, how many €m’s have been wasted.
The Government has also committed itself to the development – when money is available – of a new sport campus involving an indoor arena at Abbottstown.
Read as: “it would be nice idea to build a new sport campus involving an indoor arena at Abbottstown but it will never happen”
well great, after all the wait, they got the right answer.
now, what we need it the reopening of the phoenix park tunnel so people from galway can get the train to lansdowne road.
Can anyone tell me for definite will this new national stadium at Lansdowne Road have a retractable roof. According to the Irish Times it will, but I dont believe them – looking at the image of the stadium it does look like it.
Personally I think it should have one as then the stadium could be used everyweek for both indoor and outdoor events.Definitely no retractable roof, nor will there ever be one since the two ends of the stadium are much lower than the two main stands (which are also curved in shape), so I doublt it’d be technically feasible.
The new stadium looks a lot like the City of Manchester stadium where Manchester City now play in my opinion, except the goal ends there are two-tiered whereas Lansdowne will only have a single tier ar each end.
Yes city of Manchester stadium has two tiers that go all the way around the ground in bowl form, and each of the side stands has an extra one.
When this was built for the commonwealth games there was 1 tier at each end. As far as I know after the games they excavated downwards and built a whole new tier around the whole ground.
I dont think there’ll be much scope for enlargement in Lansdowne in this way in the future but you never know.If you ask me the best bet was a 60-65,000 seater in abbotstown. This could be extended to meet any future needs we would have which cannot be said for Lansdowne.
Also Abbotstown was to facilitate athletics so moveable seats would probably have been provided on order for a track to be used.
Having everything together in 1 sports campus which could,ve been gradually built over the years could, nay I say it, brought the olympics or such here. Why is the cheap way out always picked. The benefit in solid investment is huge
well said niall. but this is what we get for having a leader without the balls to push through his convictions and promises. 😡
he is dictacted by a woman who, and i dunno know if i can say this but what the hell, looks as if she never played any sport in her life in the most important decision regarding irish sport in the future. but i can’t change that and we are getting a small stadium so lets fast track the planning and get building.:cool:its also true she doesn’t have a science background but she is the hero of irish science. her athletisism has nothing to do with it.
i hope they do go ahead with putting training grounds and so on in abbotstown, gradually build up infrastructure, work towards a rail link etc, but to plonk a massive stadium there would have been stupid.
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its also true she doesn’t have a science background but she is the hero of irish science.how? and is it her or the civil servants on her staff?
Originally posted by notjim
her athletisism has nothing to do with it.true but an interest in sport and a idea of what is good for the sport of this country in paramount.
Originally posted by notjim
i hope they do go ahead with putting training grounds and so on in abbotstown, gradually build up infrastructure, work towards a rail link etc, but to plonk a massive stadium there would have been stupid.gradually! just like everything else in this country. 20 years down the line we may be still talking about it ..
Will Lansdowne be built under the new fast track infrastructure law being brought in for the Metro (read Roads )?
And where are the matches going to be played during redeveloped? I didn’t hear anyone from the IRFU or the FAI answer that question yet. Bet they are still hoping for Crokers to be opened up.
Can we expect a announcement soon by the GAA that they are going to lease out the ground, now that the decision has been made?
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