An Irish National Stadium!
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it was sarcasm rather than a joke.
judging by the support given to leinster last weekend i would say that most of the supporters are from the rest of ireland.
this should be judged on it’s merit as a stadium rather than the piss up before and after the match. does it meet the sandards for a world class stadium. will it bring the revenue. can it host a major final..ie uefa cup or even champions league as lets be honest if we build a stadium why not build one that can attract such an event. i agree that it’s a wonderful time every time i go to lansdowne but to be narrow minded enough to dismiss another location just because it doesn’t have the same pubs along the way…well need i say more. and there is no need to insult the countries other cities…dublin is not the only city…i agree about kilkenny though…great place for a piss up and pulling burds but a city!!! and i’m sure if it was in another city it would be full each time.Fin you have hit the nail on the head regarding Leinster. When Leinster play in Donnybrook it is usually a sell out, it is one of the most intimidating grounds on the circuit.
When they switched to Landsdowne the smaller crowd couldn’t fill it, there was apparently a pitiful atmosphere at the game.
on a larger scale an 75-80,000 seater in Abbotstown would not work for a 30-40,000 crowd
I believe in the holy trinity
Headquarters for the summer
Donnybrook for the Winter
Landsdowne for the Spring
It seems that everyone gets so hung up about the stadium, the cost, where it should be, should it be croker………A national stadium is a statement of national pride. There are only a few occasions when the rest of the world gets to see your country live on their tv screens. One of these occasions is during large sporting occasions.
A modern really cool stadium says that the country knows what it is doing….says its not backward to the rest of the world. Lansdown doesn’t say that and nobody knows about Croke park unless your Irish.
My solution would be rebuild lansdown (the oldest international rugby ground is good enough reason) and develop a smaller sports village in abbotstown to complement the pool…..(which shows you what can be done and what an impact it makes on the world stage….european swim champs and 2003 games for a start)
I think to build anything at Abbotstown you are forgetting the essential quality of the GAA model.
Build a Headquarters, A regional Stadium (those all exist) and invest in community facilities.
Despite being an avid cyclist I do not advocate a velodrome.
Landsdowne and local facilities where they are sorely needed. The Current government will build anything at abbotstown just to save face.
Don’t disagree…local facilities need upgrading and expanding….GAA model works really well for the GAA but really doesn’t support other sports where their is a need for more specialised facilities to reach international levels.
I don’t mean going ahead with abbotstown as its proposed at the moment (without the stadium) but i think the idea of an sports campus to give a focal point for the olympic sports is a good idea. The idea is more about the preperation for major comps rather than holding them. A sort of Irish sports academy with a selection of world-class training facilities
That already exists at UL was paid for by an American Philanthropist in the mid 90’s
The Minister for Sport John O’Donoghue has called on the GAA to open up Croke Park to other sports, in the national interest.
A spokesman for the GAA has said it is unhelpful for outside interests to try to influence the matter.
All this comes just days after the IRFU proposed building a new stadium at Lansdowne Road.
Putting the Leinster game in Lansdowne was a big mistake for the following reasons (1) Donnybrook works best on a Friday night – perfect for going somewhere between the office and home (2) people knew Lansdowne would have bugger all atmosphere and stayed away (3) tournament has not generated interest to date – first game and all that and (4) it’s not the same weather that we had in April for the finals.
But could you imagine it in an 80,000 seater – all that would be missing is the tumbleweed
why was it switched from donnybrook?
with stadiums like donnybrook/thomond and all those there would be no reason to have it in the 80,000 seater stadium. i would suggest that even games against the weaker teams like italy would be able to get 60,000 or so. as land as it was easy to get in and out of environs of the stadiumHere’s an aerial view of Landsdowne Road.
It will be a tight fit for the building of the new stadium in the same location. Look at those terrace ends as well as the Stand over the Dart line.
Would be best if it was rotated, as has been said before. It would utilize the space better using up that green field and probably would accomodate a bigger stadium. Common sense really when ye look at the aerial photo.
Wake up dopey government and get yer finger out.
Hump the objecting locals too, the grounds have been there long before the present residents, unless there is a local there of 100 years or more alive today.Roll on the new stadium for Landsdowne Road!
It looks great,
GAA spot on again given the site constraints, no doubt there was buckets of consultation with the local residents.
In discussions over a few pints on Saturday, the San Siro came up and the lads were wondering could it hold the key to a successful redevelopment of Landsdowne Road?
Could a largescale stadium be developed by sinking the structure into the ground thus reducing the height and the objections that would accompany a tall stadium?
Objection of the week was the DUP protest outside Ravenhill protesting at Ulster playing on a Sunday?:mad:
Response a 33-0 victory and more points than the DUP have clowns only two mind 😀
i think if anyone objects they should be lynched!!! 🙂
possibly… wasn’t that thrown around for a while?
and brazil to play ireland…now forgive me if i am wrong but would that not attract 80,000?80,000 Brazillians and 3 Million Irish
Braga is centrepiece of Euro 2004 project
Thu 8 January, 2004 02:52By Kevin Fylan
LISBON (Reuters) – A four-year stadium building programme costing more than 600 million euros (416.2 million pounds) culminated in the unveiling of a work of art in the Portuguese city of Braga at the end of December, giving Euro 2004 organisers the festive gift they wanted.
The Braga Municipal Stadium is hardly a name to stir the heart but the ground itself, built with a million cubic metres of rock blasted out from an old quarry in the hills above the city, will provide the tournament’s most spectacular setting.
Designed by Portuguese architect Eduardo Souto de Moura, it features just two stands instead of the usual four, is screwed into a hillside with steel cables and boasts a huge video screen at one of the unused ends.
Portugal won the rights to the tournament in 1999 when a promise of seven new and three rebuilt stadiums helped the country to see off a strong bid from neighbour Spain and a joint proposal from Austria and Hungary.
The final two grounds to be completed, the new Braga stadium and the rebuilt Bessa of Boavista, were inaugurated on December 31. With a little over five months to go before the start of the tournament, organisers believe their pledge has been fulfilled.
PROMISES MET
“All the promises made in 1999 have been met,” Portuguese Soccer Federation chief and organising committee chairman Gilberto Madail told reporters on a tour of the stadiums last month.
“You can see, here and now, that the stadiums are built, they are a reality, and the access is in place. When people return for the tournament, all the infrastructure will be completed.”
The Braga stadium was the most ambitious of the 10 projects begun in 2000.
Benfica’s new Stadium of Light in Lisbon can hold 65,000 spectators and should provide a fitting setting for games such as France v England in the opening group phase, as well as the final on July 4.
The far smaller Algarve stadium, pitched between the resort towns of Faro and Loule on the south coast, is another appealing design. Boavista’s compact Bessa, in Oporto, will give fans a close look at the action by pressing them up against the pitch.
Across town from Bessa, FC Porto’s bright and airy new stadium is perhaps the most attractive of the lot, designed and built at a total cost of 125 million euros.
COLOUR SCHEMES
Vibrant colour schemes at toybox stadiums built by Tomas Taveira in the towns of Leiria and Aveiro could annoy some spectators and possibly prove a distraction for the players.
With the stadiums finished, attention will turn to finishing access roads, car parks and television compounds, as well as other infrastructure such as the new railway station at Faro-Loule.
Benfica’s stadium, Porto’s Dragao, the Alvalade of Sporting Lisbon — also designed by Taveira — and Boavista’s Bessa should earn their keep after the tournament as home grounds.
However, many of the others will be largely empty in a country where most first division teams draw just a few thousand fans.
The three Taveira stadiums have been given multi-coloured seats, with the intention of making them look full even when they are virtually empty.
For the moment, the fact that the stadiums exist at all gives the Portuguese something to be proud of, says Madail.
“There were doubts expressed about whether we could do what we promised to do and, painfully, a lot of those doubts came from within Portugal,” Madail said.
“What we’ve done is to show that a small country is capable of achieving something spectacular.”
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“There were doubts expressed about whether we could do what we promised to do and, painfully, a lot of those doubts came from within Portugal,” Madail said.“What we’ve done is to show that a small country is capable of achieving something spectacular.”
would a similiar thing have been said here if we got the euro 2008?
Did anyone see Gillian Bowler on Questions and answers last night?
50m Euro a year a stadium is worth to the economy.
Gillian was CEO/owner of budget travel prior to takeover and chaired the Tourism review policy review group that reported in October 2003.
A city centre site is preferable, urgency is also essential. She said
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