An Irish National Stadium!
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That is depressing that means we won’t have a stadium until about 2025
Given the way infrastructural costs are spiraling off the scale
I pisses me off here with the crappy infrastructure aswell,but you cant always complain. I mean they are doing a hell of alot to adress the situation and things wont change overnight. I read on the IRFU’s website that the construction of the stadium will take two years, now anyone have any idea how long it would take to get planning permission etc? Id assumme though that itll be another few months atleast before permision is given for it to be built.
A lot less time if they use the GAA’s PR firm and sit down with the locals and engage in real consultation. In fact they should have done that before going to the press
The only advantage Lansdowne has is that its close to town, and im not sure if that is really an advantage to be honest with you. Of course it has a Dart, but Im assuming Abbotstown will get a metro which will cancel the Dart out as an advantage. Also where do you think youll get better support from the suits in D4 or people from Tallaght, Blanchardstwon etc?
Stira it is virtually impossible to get from Tallaght to Blanch without sitting in a traffic jam for Hours
Your missing my point, when you go to the the matches in Lansdowne, who are the more vocal fans those in the stands or on the terrace. The well to do people in the stands dont create any atmosphere, the people in the terraces who are dressed up, face painted, with drums and horns etc. create a far better atmophere, that cant be denied. You should go to a match to support your team not watch a football match, some big manager or player said that and i agree.
Stira,
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But would you not agree with the fact that if it were moved you would get alot less suits and more hardcore supporters?
Sorry Paul I know this is nothing to do with architecture.
I’m not so sure, I am sure that in the days of Jack Charlton too many ‘Corporate tickets’ were sold.
I am of the opinion that those that travel to the away games should have preference for domestic tickets.
I used to be in favour of the National Stadium being built at Abbotstown, which is part of Blanchardstown (not a thriving village, more of a mini-city) no matter what you think Stira.
But not any more.
On an average November/December day, the tailback at the M50/Blanchardstown roundabout takes about fifteen-twenty minutes to pass through coming from the city centre.
Coming from the airport, it takes fifteen-twenty minutes to get up the M50 offramp that would take you to Abbotstown.
They are currently building/planning to build several thousand houses, Pelletstown and Phoenix Park, on each side of the N3 road leading in to this roundabout (which by any standards is already as bad as the Red Cow).
The rail link in this part of town, an Arrow system, is already standing room only.
Capacity on the line is due to be increased by 21 per cent early next year with no further planned capacity increase.In short, would you build the National Stadium on a corner of the Red Cow Roundabout?
So why any one thinks it’s a good idea to do it in Blanchardstown is beyond meTo all in favour of building the Stadium in Abbotstown, it’ll be impossible to recreate the unique pre-match atmosphere that surrounds Lansdowne road out at Abbotstown.
Baggott St and other routes to the stadium are famous on a match day and the reason so many fans love coming to Ireland.
Also we should be encouraging people not to use the car and Lansdowne road in very well serviced (Train, plane and seaport) by the dart NOW
Abbotstown may well be connected in the future but you just won’t be able to walk there and soak up the atmosphere as you can in Lansdowne road. Again its something that an economic argument overlooks but the atmosphere it what makes an experience. No matter how state of the art Abbotstown is it’ll lack the soul of Lansdowne road and its surroundings.
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The fact that Lansdowne is a 20 minute walk from St Stephen’s green means that anyone who can commute to the city centre (Where all routes lead anyway) can get to Lansdowne in a short time.
Atmosphere – what people love about Lansdowne is the fact you can have a few pints before or after the game, in one of many fine establishments and walk your way into town for a meal/night out afterwards – what facility is there for this in Abbotstown – nothing.
Lansdowne Road is also the worlds oldest International rugby ground – let’s keep this record going.
Redevelop the ground – allow for an expanded Dart Station and underpasses. Don’t just keep thinking of the economic value of the site – think of the history and the place it holds in peoples hearts.
Building the stadium in Abbotstown will make going to the game purely functional and soul less – it’s like comparing shopping in Liffey Valley with shopping in the city. One is a bland but worthy, devoid of character but convenient – the other is what gives us our soul, the quirks, the slight inconvenience but its ours, it deserves to be at Lansdowne.
sorry but that’s absolute nonsense. so what if it has character…it won’t anymore cos it’s going to be ripped down as for having a few pints and going out in dublin…that’s very conivient for dubs. what about the rest of the country.having it off the m50 means ease of access and departure…well maybe not ease but it’ll be easier than travelling all the way into the centre, parking and then going to lansdowne, getting back to the centre and trying to get out of the pale. someone said earlier about having it in limerick…it’s not a bad idea seeing as a majority of the rugby supporters come from munster … we want a new stadium not a pub crawl.
True there is a high concentration of rugby fans in Limerick but it is not true to say that the majority are based there.
It is easier for someone coming from outside Dublin to get to Dublin than it is to get to Limerick since all major roads do lead to Dublin. For example I commute to the Games from Drogheda and meet fans coming from Belfast on the Enterprise to see the game – and shock horror we walk from Connolly Station to Lansdowne Road.
Going to a game is not just about attending the actual match – its more than just that, there is the build up and the post game wind down. Fans from England, Scotland, Wales France and Italy all love the Lansdowne walk to and from the game. Irish fans do to.
Would the GAA abandon Croke Park for the inconvenience of its location – I think not. They have pride in ‘headquarters’.
The majority of the best CURRENT rugby players play for Munster.
There are far more supporters in Dublin and Belfast than in Munster. Munster has a small catchment in Cork, a big catchment in the small city of Limerick.
Regardless of which two schools play the 17th of March 2004 it will draw a crowd to Lansdowne at least twice the capacity of Thomond park.
I mistakenly said that the IRFU should sell Donnybrook, I take it back, I never played there but I have great memories of a very special ground and very special freinds.
If Jim McDaid and John O’Donaghue want a monument they should list the proposal on the NASDAQ and see how much support they get
Landsdowne or nothing
so what if it has character…it won’t anymore cos it’s going to be ripped down
its not the stadium that gives lansdowne its charecter its the place it is in. ireland is one of the few places left in europe with stadiums in city centre locations. both croke park and lansdowne are legendary for their pre/post match atmosphere, walking thru the streets singing and meeting other fans on the way. this would be completely killed off if it were moved to some desolate area surrounded by acres of carparking. and for what? the convenience of a minority who travel to the games from other counties in cars, if you are going to drive that far you can drive a bit further. anyway a third of the republics population are in dublin, a huge proportion by any capitals standards.
it would be a disaster if we were to sell this priceless commodity down the river for the sake of a few million euro.Are people who say the stadium should be located outside of Dublin serious? The population of their entire counties wouldnt probably fill a decent stadium. The only city in Ireland is Dublin and its just about a city. Limerick, Kilkenny and others being branded cities is a joke, their small towns at best.
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