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  • #738019
    Anonymous
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    Or maybe someone in the media lab could do a better Virtual Reality giant hollagram Version.

    It couldn’t be that yellow pack

    If this is the best they can do, they may forget Dublin. Demolish Thomond Park and build a replica of croker Shannonside.

    Munster rugby is the only team with any real support outside the GAA in Ireland.

    Last year when both Euro-Semis were on in the same weekend one of my neighbours who is a PR guru brought his clients to Tolouse, even though he is a Marys club member.

    They could realistically fill that place five or six times a year alone, then the three international rugby matches and 3-4 soccer

    it makes better commercial sense.

    Limerick has an Airport and locals fit to sort out any soccor hooligans on the planet

    Finally a logical bit of decentralisation

    #738020
    stira
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    I really hope it does mot look like that stadium, id prefer a box stadium if you know what i mean. Like St.James’s Park or Old Trafford, or did anyone see the stadium in which Chelsea were playing the other night in Germany, Schalkes Ground, now that was a stadium! Approximately 50,000 seater aswell. I think this capacity is perfect, the stadium should also be compact and fans close to the action. This will benefit the players, fans and will create a more intimidating atmosphere for the away team. I also doubt the McAlpine stadium is anywhere near 50,000 judging by the photo.

    #738021
    Rory W
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    Though according to today’s Times the stadium at Lansdowne will be along the lines of the Hong Kong Rugby Stadium (Which looks quite good by the Pics in the sports section – sorry cannot post pics) and is 500,00 seater. It’ll be a u shaped job by the looks of it with a small stand at one end and a fuller one at the other whilst maintaining the same North-South alignment, and wont rise higher than anything currently on site at present (so there goes that objection)

    #738022
    GregF
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    Here’s a few images of the Hong Stadium which is a somewhat similar design to the McAlpine Stadium.

    I think it looks quite good, it’s a contrast to Croke Park too!

    #738023
    GregF
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    #738024
    FIN
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    i like that but will it be the same or along those lines irish style?

    #738025
    niall murphy
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    the new City Of Manchester stadium is fantastic. Maybe somethin along these lines. I know Lansdowne is a great location but I feel with the new aquatic centre in Abbotstown that a new stadium and maybe a 15,000 capacity indoor arena could turn the place into a great place to nurture Irish sport

    #738026
    stira
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    Could you imagine what the IRFU could sell Lansdowne for? I think the site is 9 acres. I say sell the site and build a stadium in Abbotstown, where you will actually be able to park, is convenient for those coming from outside of Dublin and also Blanchardstown has a rail link dosnt it, i also have read that a metro is to be built to Abbotstown. The FAI has in mind to relocate its headquarters etc to Abbotstown. It also wants a permanent stadium for underage and womens matches, that it says it would like to build there. Plus academys etc. Id say it would be harder to object to the Abbotstown aswell.

    #738027
    FIN
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    here here.

    #738028
    d_d_dallas
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    I think the fact that you would be able to park in abbotstown is prob the best reason not to build there! Harsh I know – but let’s face facts we’re choking in congestion already – building where there’s already a DART and is walkable from town makes sense.

    #738029
    FIN
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    abbotstown is out of the city centre is it not?

    #738030
    stira
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    Abbotstown is basicly Blanchardstown

    #738031
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Abbotstown is not Blanchardstown in any regard except that it shares the same postcode. It is a field.. Blanchardstown is a thriving village.

    #738032
    stira
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    I like the fact that Lansdowne is near town but the site is very restrictive, i also feel that the Dart hinders access to the stadium, any time one go’s by a few thousand fans are stuck behind the gates waiting for it to open. The biggest joke though is after the match when everyone wants to leave and a Dart is passing, have you ever experienced the congestion in the stadium when that happens? People cant move for about five minutes. No id definetly say Abbotstown, the M50 is to be upgraded so are the interchanges, it has a railline and is to be served by a metro, what more do you want? One could also build a stadium faster and cheaper on a greenfield site. The idea of a sporting campus there is a good one, the National Aquatic Centre is already there and it is fantastic from what ive heard and read. Think of the contribution the IRFU could make if they sold Lansdowne for apartments. Or would it be possible for them to build apartments on the site and then sell them themselves?

    #738033
    Anonymous
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    Psrt of any redevelopment of Lansdowne could incorporate a pedestrian underpass of the rail-line. As for the M50 it will barely be able to cope with traffic plus an extra lane minus an extra stadium.

    A Stadium is an objective

    a city that works a prerequisite.

    Any stadium must dovetail into the city. not the otherway around.

    #738034
    stira
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    Hang on the capacity is 50,000 not 500,000. Its not as if everyone will drive is it and if even assuming a majority did, how many go to matches on their own? Whenever im walking to Lansdowne for a match the cars are normally full and you know they are going to the match becuase of the jerseys, hats, scarfs etc their wearing. The car park could also be used as a park and ride for the metro. Contiue the metro on and run it under the blanchardstown shopping centre and put a stop underneath it.

    #738035
    stira
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    http://www.dto.ie/fig7.pdf

    Heres a link to the proposed metro network, note Blanchardstown and all its surrounding rail lines.

    #738036
    stira
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    Also how many matches do you know that kick off during rush hour? Soccer matches always kick off at 7.30 during weekdays and 3.00 on Saturday. The traffic using the roads would be far less than would be using it at peak hours.

    #738037
    Anonymous
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    Stira for someone that lives in Dublin, you must leave work early everyday.

    On my 20 minute walk home everynight at about 7pm the traffic is still gridlocked. It would take me an hour to drive the same route

    It is only during the summer that this really improves.

    #738038
    stira
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    But by the time the stadium is built, we will have the port tunnel, luas, M 50 completed with more lanes and better interchanges, Dart upgrade, extra bus lanes, higher capacity on all trains serving Dublin, have you not seen cie’s ads on how much the capacity is increasing? The aiport to city centre metroline will probably be complete at around the same times as the stadium, the Liffey is getting watertaxis, i mean congestion here should have declined substantially by the time the stadium opens. Its not always good to think so short sighted.

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