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  • #788313
    Anonymous
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    British guy was on Newstalk this morning and says we aren’t one of the PIGS anymore! Man that’s a relief. Presume Italy is the sole ‘I’.

    #788314
    admin
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    Italy never made the group; they declared a tax amnesty on foreign deposits and got €100bn into their collective over the table balance sheet and netted €5bn in taxes. Berlesconi may have his personal life episodes but he a very prudent economic manager.

    Ireland it seems has left the group following some really hard budgets; one notes the very positive stance taken by the FT; it seems after being the model case according to many economists in the inflating the bubble phase; the country is now regarded as the model case in how to deal with the fallout.

    #788315
    Anonymous
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    Superb news!

    #788316
    Paul Clerkin
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    @reddy wrote:

    There’s been a fair bit of schadenfreude surrounding our plight across the water actually. We definitely don’t want to give them another photo op!

    maybe we should just implode it

    or turn it into an arts project of some kind

    #788317
    Anonymous
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    @Peter Fitz wrote:

    They might want to add the letters U and K to their sneering P I I G S acronym, though that would spoil their fun now wouldn’t it, and perhaps a little too close to the truth for our British friends.

    How about an acronym for France, United Kingdom, Estonia, Romania and Spain.;)
    There’s bound to be some negative connotation linking them all.
    If only to make us feel a little bit smug again !

    #788318
    Anonymous
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    Is work still progressing? it’ll be nice to have the tallest building in Ireland title taken back for dublin, Cork and Belfast had ideas above their stations.

    #788319
    Anonymous
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    oh wait, I’m confusing this with the, yet to begin, aqua vetro. Never mind.

    #788320
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    Yes, I had exams over in the RDS over the past few weeks and you get a good luck at Montevetro on the route over to it and every day I saw activity on-site. Cranes were moving and you could see workers on the top floors. NAMA or no NAMA, it should be completed and put on the market. It’d be great to see a company of the calibre of Google take it as their EMEA headquarters so that it doesn’t become our very own version of the “Empty State Building”.

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    @cgcsb wrote:

    Is work still progressing? it’ll be nice to have the tallest building in Ireland title taken back for dublin, Cork and Belfast had ideas above their stations.

    Im afraid Belfast is way above its station with the Oble Tower at 28 stories 85 meters.Its just about finished too i hear.Alto Vetro is a poor ould stump at 60 meters sadly!:mad:

    #788322
    Anonymous
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    @mud hut!, I meant to say aqua vetro, is that still going ahead? As far as I know it was planned to be 80 something. I think Cork’s Elysian is 81m also.

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    @mud hut! wrote:

    Im afraid Belfast is way above its station with the Oble Tower at 28 stories 85 meters.Its just about finished too i hear.Alto Vetro is a poor ould stump at 60 meters sadly!:mad:

    Yeah but you see we can’t have tall buildings in Dublin because they’re vulgar or… something to do with Georgian architecture.

    The yellow panels on Alto Vetro look very odd. Is IKEA moving in or something?

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    @cgcsb wrote:

    @mud hut!, I meant to say aqua vetro, is that still going ahead? As far as I know it was planned to be 80 something. I think Cork’s Elysian is 81m also.

    I think its on hold like everything else.Im not sure but i think it was only 24 stories so it would have still come up short compared with the Obel tower in Belfast.

    #788325
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    @mud hut! wrote:

    I think its on hold like everything else.Im not sure but i think it was only 24 stories so it would have still come up short compared with the Obel tower in Belfast.

    according to wikipedia, the Obel is only 85m

    #788326
    Anonymous
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    @mud hut! wrote:

    I think its on hold like everything else.Im not sure but i think it was only 24 stories so it would have still come up short compared with the Obel tower in Belfast.

    Not true. Obel Tower is to be 85 metres tall with 28 stories. At 4 metres per storey, Aqua Vetro can beat it at 96 metres. Given that Montevetro will be 60 metres at 16 storeys that is a reasonable estimate of the possible height of Aqua Vetro.

    Hopefully Aqua Vetro will be built so that finally, Dublin will be the home of the tallest building on the island. Given that it is the island’s primate city it is only right that that is the case.

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    @Cathal Dunne wrote:

    Dublin will be the home of the tallest building on the island. Given that it is the island’s primate city it is only right that that is the case.

    But surely primates thrive even better in the sub-tropical climate of Cork the real Capital:D?

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    @publicrealm wrote:

    But surely primates thrive even better in the sub-tropical climate of Cork the real Capital:D?

    g’wan away ya buck eejit-surely Armagh’s frost loving Red-Cap monkey lives in the e primeval city for building tall spires????

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    #788330
    Anonymous
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    I have to say that this is great news. I’m glad that Google are sticking with us during these shitty times.

    €99m for such a large building in a prominent location is an absolute bargain. Fair play to them.

    Google is buying the ‘skyscraper’ from developer Real Estate Opportunities, which is trying to raise cash to redevelop the Battersea Power Station.

    The bulk of the Google proceeds will go to Ireland’s ‘bad bank’ for toxic debt, which owns the loans that REO took out to develop the Montevetro site.

    #788331
    Anonymous
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    €99m for such a large building in a prominent location is an absolute bargain.

    or not…

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30850817/ns/business-real_estate/

    A month before that, the John Hancock Tower — Boston’s tallest skyscraper — sold at auction for just over $20 million. The 33-story Equitable Building in downtown Atlanta is set to go up for auction next month; its owners owe more than $50 million to the bank and have only half of the building leased.

    I don’t think Google are stupid – I suspect there is a lot more to this deal than meets the eye, but a useful piece of NAMA flim-flam to try and buoy up prices on vanity projects like this… the challenge for NAMA is that there are no more cash rich multi-national camped on the doorstep of other projects.

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