32-floor building planned for Dublin
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Ok, the Luas will be crowded by the time it reaches Heuston station at peak times, but the interconnector will have a high capacity for bringing passengers into the the city centre and doklands. And the one thing is, its going ot have to be built there is no getting out of it for CIE or the Gov.
My point is that yes higher densities, yes taller buildings but in areas where you can cluster them.
Follow the buildings with a metro system or lead with the metro.
There is very little built heritage in the Docklands.
This proposal would destroy the heritage value of two important buildings.
Building a 100m tall building in the Docklands would do a lot less damage to the exisitng skyline.
A little less talk a lot more action
I have more confidence in seeing Elvis than the rail interconnecter
Reports, studies, green papers, white papers,
tenders, additional submissions, re-examinations of the tendering process, further clarification of the specification.Ah why not lets have another competition.
Just an idea, everyone knows that Luas is going to be pa currecked to capacity from day one. Frequency at peak times is 5 minutes. Why not order in double the amount of trams currently, increase frequency to 2.5 mins and then when the interconnector is in place, metro etc, use the trams on another line.
please explain heritage value. and as i said everything has to start somewhere. it depends on the architecture. me thinks u don’t like tall buildings…keep ireland in the 18th century!!!!
The interconnector was never meant to be in place yesterday, today or tommorow. Its going to be and was always meant to be about another 8 years before it is built.
Tom Parlance: “I got an extra 16 stories put on this building for the civil servants staying in Dublin”
Charlie McCreedy: “Sure Tomo didn’t even know about the first 16 stories”
Heh heh
If its going tall, GO TALL!
I’ve no idea what impact this building will have on the Royal Hospital until pics etc are produced – so I’m not commenting till then on that issue.
But it must truly be a ‘landmark building’ in terms of height and design.
And there mustn’t be any clustering of 7 storey ‘ancillary development’ around it’s base, tossed in for good measure.Quote:Originally posted by Diaspora
There are three points on this:Second point is that it would destroy the Heritage value of two important buildings namely Dr Steven’s Hospital and The Royal Hospital in Kilmainham. Lads keep the modern art forms within the Museum.
I really hate it when people bring up nonsense like this. This new buildings ruining the views, or the heritage or whatever of old buildings is nearly always a ploy by conservationists to block any new developments and far too often they actually get their way. Do real people honestly believe in this rubbish?
Do the skyscrapers of New York destroy the heritage value of St Patricks Cathedral? Maybe like here they would have been better off banning tall buildings so they wouldn’t overshadow the cathedral – I’m sure the city would be all the better for it.
Isn’t it terrible how the skyscrapers of Sydney ruin the views of their fantastic harbour, if only Irish conservationists could have been around to put a stop to it. Only a fool would think Sydney is a spectacular modern city now.
I really don’t understand conservationists, they seem to be anti almost everything that isn’t run-of-the-mill boring these days. In fact if they were around when Dr Steven’s Hospital and The Royal Hospital in Kilmainham were being built they would probably have been against them too because they ruined the “heritage value” of something or other.
Fin my favourite building is 42 storys high,
It is built in a business park that passes for a suburb,
I just lament the fact that it is not in a place serviced by the type of infrastructure that justifies such art form
Heritage value in relation to this one, is the view in the front gate of the royal hospital down the tree lined avenue to a very early building.
One can forget the pressures of modern living in a high amenity area.
A 32 story building jutting over the top of the Royal hospital would eliminate that amenity.
stira – if you bothered reading about the docklands developments you might understand why they are not highrise.
dublin is not manhatten and shouldn’t try to be.
Poor interaction between design styles.
Pinstripe suit and a rangers jersey instead of a shirt
you will have to explain better than that because at the present moment u are sounding like paisley ranting. we say no. it might be good but just in case we will say no. and will not budge even if it mean a fight.
weither he is in a rangers shirt or a pin stripe suitIt is the most basic principle of Architecture
Buildings must interact with each other, when a prime civic use building such as the National Museum for modern art. It assumes its position in the architectural hierarchy.
It is a building of considerable merit in a low rise style. It is utilised for cultural events such as the honouring of the War of Independence volunteers.
To preserve visual amenity of said quality,
It would be an extreme PARLONCE to stick a rangers jersey into a pin striped setting.
As Red Eoin said this is not Manhatten but I am sure they have development rules there as well.
They also have a transit system that moves 2m passengers per day.
Silly Season
i have read quite alot about the docklands redoin, but tell me why there isnt any high rise to be built there please. Ill tell you why in my opinion they are to conservative, have no vision, want to keep residents happy and can also develp the area faster if they are building the usual 5 storey crap, I mean the new buildings in Sandyford Industrial Estate have a far higher density than those in the docklands!!
The second phase will be much higher density than the first.
Yes a lot of the designs are sadly very bland
but it must be acknowledged that progress is being made. What is planned is higher density than exists.
The last phase of Custom House Square being the perfect example it is 9/10 stories and works very well.
The secret in my opinion is to go a story higher a block as you move down stream.
With one or two very tall slender towers to serve as landmarks.
In the absence of new church steeples the city needs a new form of landmark.
building interact on many levels and not just in regards to scale so to just take 1 princple and form an opinion on that is a folly and so possibly ur development in spacial interaction is somewhat stunted by working for/with an taisce. such narrow-mindness is usually reserved for architectural ignorant people.
as regards cultural events. our culture is evident not only in remembrance events but in our built environment, some may say more so, so i don’t really know what ur argument there is. culture is forever evolving and to embrace a past culture of ours and seize on it as an ideal for the future and we must strictly follow this is again narrow-minded.
and you seem to be focusing ur anger about our public transport system onto the built environment and those who wish to supply services. find the people that are actually to blame ( ie those who squandered money during the celtic tiger years on meaningless crude) and focus ur blame on them.
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