32-floor building planned for Dublin
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I agree the port tunnel will do excellent.
The Luas provide a little extra capacity.But the roads were planned very badly.
When the decision in 2000 was made to build Motorways to Belfast, Cork and Galway they continued with the same 7- 20 mile bypasses.
Three contracts were all they needed.
The absence of a metro and airport rail link at this time are felt by all commuters. Until these (Road and Rail) are completed Ireland willcontinue to be a second world country infrastructurally
But you are right on eaten bread being soon forgotten
the motorways if we are to believe the policitians will be underway soon and not just these stupid little by-passes. but we can’t build our own raods seemingly. i think we should hire foreigners and they will lash them down.
and the pace of evolution is slow. patience is needed.I agree, the days of the Minister and half the cabinet opening 3 mile bypasses should be consigned to history.
If we can’t build cheap roads bring Johnny foreigner in to build them. There is no reason why Portlaoise to Cork and Limerick can’t be one contract.
This is a very small country!!!
I think we can thank the IFA for many of the hold ups.
I don’t believe the polititians, I think patience is warranted, loads of it and it needs to be towards the other motorists.
You are right about the foreign contractors, the development of the A7 in Germany was completed from Wurzburg to the Swiss border in three contracts. A distance of about 500-600 kms
i don’t know if the ifa are to blame. but it is our planning system. well i hope the introduction of this fast-track for big infrastructural projects will cut this out. a lot of it is small minded people as well. i know with the loughrea by-pass that it was proposed twenty years ago (as it is a shit of a town to come through ) the business people of the town objected cos they thought they would lose money from the business. as it turns out if u stop there u will be waiting for ages to get out so nobody stop there anymore. now the business people are srying for it. it’s starting soon by the way. but a main part of the motorway is supposed to start soon also. i have no problem with jonny foreigner coming in and doing our roads for us. after all we did it for yanks and brits.
The reason the IFA are to blame is that they instructed all their members not to deal with the compulsory purchase agents. It held everything up by about two years.
Loughrea is a nightmare, I found the rezoning of lands containing the bypass route to industrial use one of the worst and most corrupt rezonings I have ever seen.
It is almost as good as planning being given for a house on the route of the proposed Luas extension to Cherrywood, a full year after the route was agreed.
i know..makes no sense at all. u would think that our publis reps. would be just slightly smarter if they want to be corrupt. mind u they have been getting away with it for years….
and fair play the planner u gave that house the go ahead. he/she is definately earmarked for the darwin awardi think i talked too soon. some objectors to loughrea by-pass!!!! when will this country learn.
anyway. has this building gone in for planning?
Re Loughrea, no doubt the objectors are the buddies of the councillors who rezoned their lands industrial. Claiming that will interfere with my new and hard won access rights. Wheres my flyover to build my ALDI?
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have no doubts about that. i didn’t get my lands rezoned so there is going to be no bypass… class isn’t it.Originally posted by Diaspora
The reason the IFA are to blame is that they instructed all their members not to deal with the compulsory purchase agents.sorry i knows a bit back but i thought that cpo are exactly that…there is no option ????
It would be hillarious if it didn’t involve the third most important road in the Country
To Quote Dermot Lacy former Lord Mayor of Dublin “You can’t move 40 foot containers on the back of a Bicycle”
I am also biased towards particular infrastructural projects.
The CPO process is very fair and transparent there is a first instance assessment. Upon which an offer is made, then a little negotiation. If no consensus emerges an independent arbitrator is appointed and the appointment must be agreed by both parties.
There is then an option of appeal to the High Court on legal grounds but not on the award.
The IFA decided that they wanted more than open market value for members lands, the government caved in to their junior minister and there are rumours that Brussels is investigating.
people making rash assumptions again..how does he know? did he try it? 🙂 what was that in relation to?
The Port Tunnel,
He’d certainly make Ripley’s believe it if he pulled even an empty container along.
btw guys, I said I would link this just for the glass and steel, CG visualisation fans here. Enjoy!
Just make sure you are on a fast connection! 🙂
I am not too familiar with developers myself, but I did stumble across an article about a Toronto developer, which might prove interesting to thread readers on this topic.
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