Re: Re: The Great 1930s Scheme

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Absolutely – though the opposite is often the case regarding road widths dc3: Crumlin has exceptionally wide streets in places, made up of wide pavements, an equally wide and often windswept lay-by, and then wide two-lane carriageways in the middle. Even in these cases no effort is made to convert these areas for parking.
I know from residents that these areas are used by commerical outfits and small business to park their trucks and trailers at night! Indeed the place can become a dumping ground at weekends for commercial vehicles.

Also many of these areas are devoid of planting, i.e. trees along what could be fine very avenues and roads. No doubt this is in part due to the troublesome generation of the past, but efforts should now be made to change this. One need only look at the beauty of St Agnes Park, the main avenue that links the Crumlin Scheme to the village and church.
It is a private road, but was developed at roughly the same time in the late 40s and early 50s. At the time it was planted with sycamore trees and now these form an almost Griffith Avenue-like streetscape – if only the same could be said for the Crumlin scheme.

As the Hospital has been mentioned the new wing recently opened looks great, fits in very well with the original scheme, even if its long-term future may be in question:

Yes that fact about the schools in Crumlin is extraordinary – something like 20,000 children used to pour out of the schools at closing resulting in the closing times being staggered like present-day nightclubs 🙂
Indeed three of the schools are on St Agnes Park/Armagh Road, architecturally interesting in themselves – one modernist, the other two neoclassical.

When you see the gently curving roads of Crumlin, the squares and crescents, the well-designed houses and curtilages, the spaces set aside for recreation, the tree planting in areas where it has survived, the emphasis placed on layout and social interaction, you really would wonder about modern-day housing estates.
Why can’t developers even lay out a curved street?! Is it really that difficult?! They can be so picturesque and visually interesting.
Why can’t developers build terraces anymore, or indeed anything other than semi-ds on a grid pattern?
Or properly finish off estate walls, paving, planting, street furniture…?

The other factor to consider with Crumlin is that it was built at such a density as to make public transport more than viable; there’s a bus every 15 minutes at peak times in most places, with every 20-30 minutes thereafter.
Very few, if any housing estate in modern Ireland can claim anything even close to the success of the Crumlin Scheme, planned over 70 years ago.

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