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@BostonorBerlin wrote:

I love the way its everyones fault but the designers… most architects will line up the builders, sub-contractors, nimbys and local grannys in front of them before taking any flak for abject design failures .. Berties MO in more ways than one has infected elements of Irish society. I had some faint hope there was some design talent in this country , but reading into the reaction as the tower crumbles Im less and less inclined to believe that, it looks like a total and utter systemic failure in developing anything resembling an Irish movement or style. On the plus side badly designed buildings were in fact very poorly constructed, so give it another 20 years and most will be up for replacement.

my opinion is that it is the whole system from planning to occupation thats the failure.

The planning system takes no account of construction methodology, energy conservation, or building standards. This is left to a defunct haphazard building control system, under the LAs remit, who claim a 10-15% of new build inspection sto be a success…………………. ridiculous.

the idea of self certification, or external certification, by private professionals is a joke.many of these professionals do not keep uptodate with changing regulations, best practises or new construction systems. The idea of 5 – 6 site vists as being adequate to certify a new dwelling build shouldnt have been accepteable, but became the industry norm. With todays standards it is IMPOSSIBLE to properly certify a dwelling with the same standard of inspection, yet this norm hasnt and will not change until the whole certifcation process is disected in depth. I realise im focusing on dwellings but this is where i feel the biggest failure in standards has happened.

Im my opinion, planning should be divided into two separate entities. The ‘in principle’ planning can be granted, but no work should proces until the ‘in practise’ planning is granted. This ‘in practise’ planning should be a determination on all the construction elements (structure, fire, materials, guarding etc) and systems (ventilation, energy conservation, acoustic, health and safety etc) involved in the work. Planners should either be construction professionals or have internal consultant assistants in determining this ‘in practise’ planning permission. All construction professionals proposed to be involved during the project should be named and vetted prior to commencement.

The ad hoc lassiez-faire system we currently have facilitates unscrupulous or uneducated ‘professionals’ and ‘cowboy’ contractors.

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