Re: Re: Proposal to ban private cars from Dublin city centre
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@Frank Taylor wrote:
the problem with this kind of language is that implies that ‘motorists’ are a separate ethnic group or an endangered animal species worthy of protection and basic rights. I use my car to drive around ballsbridge and donnybrook where land is worth 100m per acre and I pay nothing extra on my flat annual tax to do so. I take up masses of roadspace, preventing public transport from functioning properly, and making wallking and cycling dangerous and unpleasant. By choosing to drive, I remove a passenger fromm public transport so the transport company loses revenue and services are less frequent. And I will continue to do so unless I am prevented from doing so by law or charged more than I can afford or delayed sufficiently to make a bus more convenient.
I have no more entitlement to rights as a ‘motorist’ than as a ‘fax machinist’ or a user of any other device. We are Dubliners and users of the city. The machines should be our slaves rather than us being their pets.
Don’t you pay road tax then? insurance? By that argument why shouldn’t cyclists pay to use the cycle lanes, pedestrians to use the pavements? I don’t cycle because of the driving behaviour of buses and taxis, not cars. I saw a cyclist come off her bike yesterday when her wheel caught in the luas tracks.
Your argument that my driving deprives dublin bus of another passenger is laughable. I live near a luas but I don’t use it because it is permanently packed and, unless you get on at a terminus you don’t have a mission of getting a pram/buggy onto it. They couldn’t take anymore passengers but is the service more frequent? no. I waited 25 minutes for a bus last night and when it arrived it drove on bybecause it was packed. They couldn’t take anymore passengers but is the service more frequent? no. So I had to get a taxi, with the usual unpleasant driver, extortionate fare, manky car and I ended up telling him how to get where I want to go anyway. Hell, last week I had to tell the driver of the bus I did get on the way to go!! I drive to Galway rather than take the train so I don’t have to listen to some inflated fool talking on his mobile the whole way.
My car takes up the same space as a taxi, a lot less space than a bus. Public transport has its own lanes, in some places its own light systems. I’m holding myself up, not dublin bus.
dangerous and unpleasant?? I have yet to see a cyclist stop for a red light – I have been nearly hit by a cyclist many many more times than a car. The only time I have nearly hit a pedestrian in my car is when they walked out in front of me. Maybe traffic would move more smoothly if pensioners didn’t start to cross the road the second the little man turns red. We are indeed Dubliners but this Dubliner feels safer inside the car than outside it.