Re: Re: Edwardian Farmhouse

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GrahamH
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To be honest I haven’t had any experience of ordering new sashes myself, but even from looking through the Yellow Pages etc on previous occasions you can see the dedicated window and door joiners, and then those that make stairs and roof-joists etc with windows on the side. I presume it is the latter that tend to churn out the clunky yokes, but that is not to say that a good all-rounder local joiner isn’t more than capable and experienced to make wha tyou want.

Definitely shop around – as with everything the cheapest price doesn’t necessarily get you the better deal, nor do more expensive joiners result in a better product. Looking at prvious jobs done is usually the best way to assess their work – look at samples at their workshop and ask for any buildings or houses nearby that they’ve worked on and have a look.

Good on you for asking the previous owner, I would’ve found it most difficult without offending him deeply 🙂
Certainly I’d chase him for a photograph – any pic at all that even has a bit of the house in the background is all you need, as long as some of the window is in shot. All you need to find out is whether each shas was a single pane of glass or divided into two panes, as pictured above.
It’s very likely they were single panes, but if you can confirm this you’re flying.

Also the horns of the sashes are very important. These are quite literally little horns that were added as part of the vertical timbers of sashes from the 1820s onwards to help strengthen the window with the newly invented heavy panes of glass installed. Originally they were largely decorative, but by the 1850s were quite important as a structural support. They survived ever since until the ousting of the sash altogether in the 1930s and are an importnet feature of most sash windows.

Some modern joiners can make a complete muck of them, especially PVC sashes which just can’t seem to do them properly at all.
This lovely very simple rounded horn is probably identical to the ones your house had – as seen on so many early 20th century windows:

They’re sited on the outside of the window on the bottom of the upper sash, and mostly inside the window, though not always, at the top of the lower sash like that pictured.

Horns to avoid by a mile are angular, overly decorative modern ones like these:

Your windows probably wouldn’t have had decorative moulding around the edges of the main timbers like this either.

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