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@Andrew Duffy wrote:

The Sean O’Casey bridge is a footbridge, and it is therefore illegal for a cyclist to cycle on it – he must dismount. As for the East Link, a basic instinct for self-preservation should lead to a cyclist dismounting and using the footpath. I haven’t been there for a while, but I think it’s possible to avoid the long detour a car must make to go from Ringsend to the bridge by using a pedestrian gate – is it possible to push (not cycle) a bike through that?

I’m aware of the illegality re the O’Casey alright (you’ll note it wasn’t me who raised that point initially:) ), but a large part of the problem with that bridge is that the surface is just so, well, suitable for cycling. (It might be worth noting here that the Milennium Footbridge west of the Ha’penny does allow cyclists, which makes the O’Casey rule all the more bafflng. DDDA should be leading the way in promoting sustainable transport, not discouraging it.)

Since posting the picture of the East Link sign, I’ve been told that the reason for it is the occasional high winds coming up the river- apparently a motorcyclist was killed there (don’t know when) by being blown into the path of a lorry. However, the footpaths on both sides are too narrow to allow a walking cyclist to pass a pedestrian.

You’re right- there is a gap in the wall at York Road / Thorncastle Street, but it’s not a pedestrian gate afaik so it’s both possible and legal to cycle through it as I did last weekend. I suppose my original question was how does one get to this gap without using the bridge.

And like ConK, I’ve a real problem with cyclists having to dismount at pinch points or on narrow stretches of road in order to accommodate motorised traffic. This is a perfect example of why there should be an explicit modal hierarchy in the city- pedestrian, cyclist, light rail, bus, etc etc all the way to the private car in last place (and why HGVs should be banned completely within the canals- period). Where conflicts arise between modes, the lower mode in the hierarchy should either have to give way or, better still, shouldn’t be there in the first place. And the existing rule for O’Casey would fit with this general approach, though equally so would permitting cyclists to cross O’Casey on their bikes as long as they keep to walking pace or slower. Sadly there are many cyclists for whom this idea would be anathema.

Anyway, I fear we’re getting too far off topic, and I’m starting to reiterate points I’ve made on the Cycling in Irish Cities thread, where this discussion perhaps more properly belongs. FTR, I think we’re largely on the same page, Andrew.

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