What Exactly is the Irish Architecture Foundation At?

@onq wrote:

This has to stop.

given those financial options open and the bollocks “benefits” that come with them, I very much doubt it’s even going to start.

Apparently this has been going on for five years.

The BCA 2007 is proof that something has been going on solely to benefit the RIAI.

Read Keane’s book Building and the Law if you want to see how it should have turned out.

Still, doesn’t it say a lot about how lame we are that we’ve missed it for five years, that I’ve nothing better to do than write about it, or you’ve nothing better to do than reply.

Maybe its that we’re committed to architecture.

Or perhaps we should be committed. 🙂

Righto – off to watch the mentalist!

ONQ.

Tostatusqouornottostatusko…

Is that sort of a reverse Koyaanisqatsi?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koyaanisqatsi

ONQ.

It looks like more of a reference to the headbanger’s fav Status Quo than to Phillip Glass.

”Tostatusqouornottostatusko… ”

you just leave these things sit there, you don’t analyse

@onq wrote:

From:

http://www.architecturefoundation.ie/2008/10/24/become-a-patron/

The Irish Architecture Foundation is the only organisation in Ireland that communicates architecture to the general public.

Then there’s this bit.

· Invitations to breakfasts where policy issues are discussed with leading figures in the built environment

And just what do you have to do for this privilege?

Patron

€3,500 each year, renewed every 3 years

Benefactor

€1,000 each year, renewed every 3 years

Is it just me, or is it precisely this kind of cosy relationship between vested interests and the building sector that has led us to the current crisis?

. . . . This has to stop.

ONQ.

Onq, you’re desperate to start a fight with someone 🙂

The IAF do no harm to anyone, why pick on them? The IAF are just trying to connect architecture with the general public, which is an aspiration that is long overdue, and if some lonely soul wants to send €500 to Nathalie Weadick to become a ‘friend’ of her organisation in the process, who are we to judge them?

By the same token, if some SUV-driving developer type is persuaded to fork out three and a half grand [of deductable expenses] to get the opportunity to impart his considerable :rolleyes: insight at a power-breakfast, feck it, for that return, I’d even buy the bastard a bacon-egg-McMuffin.

‘Open House’ has been one of the best things to happen to Irish architecture in years. It might have been an idea lifted from elsewhere, but it has genuinely engaged with the public to a far greater extent than any previous initiatives that come to mind, and if we could sort out the insiders who seem to be able to block-book the most interesting venues and maybe expand the open times a bit, for those of use who might like to do more than one, then there’s no reason ‘Open House’ can’t be a continued success, you know, going forward.

Even the Open House debates are a bit of an annual highlight IMO, but then I suppose I don’t get out much.

These IAF events are particularly useful because, for some reason, people seem to be extraordinarily reluctant to discuss architecture until suddenly they are confronted by some new concrete eyesore that they instantly conclude makes no attempt to connect with them, or anything that they feel connected to.

Maybe that IAF blurb that onq posted blows it’s own trumpet a bit louder than is perhaps justified . . . for an outfit with an on-line discussion forum that attracts a new post about every three months . . . . but at least they’re trying, which is more than the RIAI ever did.

On the subject of architectural discourse, are we deliberately not talking about the AAI awards this year, or is it just that nobody bothered going?

Gunter,

Pugnacious – moi? You wound me deeply…

Vehicles of connection can easily become vehicles of propaganda.
Propaganda is a means of exerting influence on the masses of the electorate and their representatives.
I think you are being deliberately naive if you think that the €3.5K is being forked out by builders to talk to John Grabby onitored by the IAF.

Get a grip!

Its far more likely to become a talking shop where wealthy architects have and hold the Minister’s ear to influence government policy.
Which influence can best be seen these days in the RIAI/IAF-serving woridng of the Building COntrol Act 2007.
The Environment Minister’s cosy relationship with Grabby and his new Design agenda isn’t a co-incidence.

I agree that the Open House initiative is excellent work.
I think that Dr. Sandra O’Connell is a good public speaker and represents the IAF well.
Saw her open the lactures and spoke with her briefly at Plan Expo 2009 in the RDS last year – she was clued in and knew her brief.

But please check out the membership before you consider that the IAF is a separate organization from the RIAI.
It may be the Real RIAI or the Continuity RIAI of some Dissident RIAI, but its still the RIAI by another name.
It seems to be operating in competition with the AAI for some strange reason.

I was at the AAI awards the other night, got slagged off by Hugo Lamont in his speech because it wasn’t accredited for CPD points and I STILL attended 🙂
Saw a lot of the people you see mentioned in the literature AND I bought the buke of the 25th AAI Awards, plus you got to see the full scale presentations of the works.
Place was flooded with 2nd years being pretentious, but it was good ot see them there, getting inducted into the process of competitions, which I think will come to the fore at the start of their careers in order to make a name for oneself in the New World Order of 2015.

FWIW

ONQ.

. . . . . and what of the architecture?

@gunter wrote:

. . . . but at least they’re trying, which is more than the RIAI ever did.

Bit of a typo there 😮

of course, that should have read:

. . . . which is exactly what the splendid people in the RIAI have been doing for years.

phew

@gunter wrote:

. . . . . and what of the architecture?

What?

ONQ.

@gunter wrote:

Bit of a typo there 😮

of course, that should have read:

. . . . which is exactly what the splendid people in the RIAI have been doing for years.

phew

What – a crawler?!

ONQ.

@onq wrote:

What?
ONQ.

Don’t hassle What?, if we get into a discussion on the AAI, there will likely be mention of O’D + T, and What? will enter the fray at that point.

Onq, you mentioned [in between name-drops] that you were at the launch of the AAI awards, I’m just trying to draw you out a bit. I’m hoping that, some day, you’ll feel able to express your feelings about buildings.

Imagine for a moment that gunter is a top-of-the-range, two-hundred-dollar-an-hour, psychiatrist . . . and that you’re a headcase.

Now relax on the archiseek couch and see if you can remember what you saw.

@onq wrote:

I was at the AAI awards the other night . . . . got to see the full scale presentations of the works.

That’s good, you were at the AAI awards, there must have been a lot of excited people there and they would have been architects too, just like you, isn’t that right? I imagine there were pictures on the walls . . . lots of pictures.

Now, what did the pictures show?

@onq wrote:

buildings
ONQ.

They showed buildings, that’s right. Did you think they were pretty buildings?

. . . . or did these buildings make you angry? . . . Did the buildings fill you with envy?

It’s OK, you can tell gunter

ONQ as usual your just coming across as somewhat petty & immature. . And you’d do well not cross swords or try & tackle the vastly intellectually superior brain capacity of the one known as ‘gunter’.;)

@apelles wrote:

ONQ as usual your just coming across as somewhat petty & immature. . And you’d do well not cross swords or try & tackle the vastly intellectually superior brain capacity of the one known as ‘gunter’.;)

Capacity is a measure of quantity.

Punctuate before piss-taking or your unlikely to impress.

ONQ.

@gunter wrote:

Don’t hassle What?, if we get into a discussion on the AAI, there will likely be mention of O’D + T, and What? will enter the fray at that point.

Onq, you mentioned [in between name-drops] that you were at the launch of the AAI awards, I’m just trying to draw you out a bit. I’m hoping that, some day, you’ll feel able to express your feelings about buildings.

Imagine for a moment that gunter is a top-of-the-range, two-hundred-dollar-an-hour, psychiatrist . . . and that you’re a headcase.

Now relax on the archiseek couch and see if you can remember what you saw.

That’s good, you were at the AAI awards, there must have been a lot of excited people there and they would have been architects too, just like you, isn’t that right? I imagine there were pictures on the walls . . . lots of pictures.

Now, what did the pictures show?

They showed buildings, that’s right. Did you think they were pretty buildings?

. . . . or did these buildings make you angry? . . . Did the buildings fill you with envy?

It’s OK, you can tell gunter

Okay Gunter.

You’re posting pissed again.

I mean, you’re posting on the Architect’s Board and all you can fantasize about being is a psychiatrist?

What – no megalomania about running the RIAI and ruling the Profession?

Sit down beside me on this couch and tell us all about it.

You know you want to.

ONQ.

@onq wrote:

What – no megalomania about running the RIAI and ruling the Profession?

. . . Today 04:01 AM . .

Don’t mind me, I’m just jotting down some notes 🙂

continue . . .

@gunter wrote:

. . . Today 04:01 AM . .

Don’t mind me, I’m just jotting down some notes 🙂

continue . . .

I got my Tardis in IKEA.

ONQ.

I see the IAF are doing their Pecha Kucha thing again

Can we organize someone to go down to this one, . . . . we never get any feedback from these PK nights.

There must be someone young and spotty we could send?