Pearse Street, Dublin

@Cathal Dunne wrote:

That’s Trinity’s new Biosciences Development. It’s a huge project which is due to be finished by 2011. It’s already coming on quickly, it’s gone from this;

to this;

in about a month.

Any pics of what the finished product is supposed to look like?

@thebig C wrote:

Any pics of what the finished product is supposed to look like?

Yep, these are images of what the Biosciences Development will look like in 18 months’ time-

that is a side profile of how the place will look at street level.

another street-level picture.

this is a side profile of how the whole building will look upon completion.

and the Biosciences Development from the air!

Can I ask who the architect is? With plans by Sean Reilly to demolish the offices across the road it’d be interesting to see a before and after aerial view of the street.

bit of a shame the opportunity to competely rebuild this block in conjunction with Iarnrod Eireann’s development of the Underground at Pearse was lost….Looks like a decent design at the detailed level but decidedly underwhelming for a city centre rail station site. How shit do the sheds next door look!

Wow pearse street will be lookinh well in a few years.:eek:

@jdivision wrote:

Can I ask who the architect is? With plans by Sean Reilly to demolish the offices across the road it’d be interesting to see a before and after aerial view of the street.

I don’t know, but I do know that PJ Walls are the builders retained to build the edifice.

He Cathal

Thanks for posting the pics. I think it looks potentially very good. A little bulky perhaps, but a vast improvment on most of the buildings on Pearse St!

Pity Trinity won’t clean up some of the period buildings they own further up…..eg Nuzzum Bros (may have spelt that incorrectly).

C

@thebig C wrote:

He Cathal

Thanks for posting the pics. I think it looks potentially very good. A little bulky perhaps, but a vast improvment on most of the buildings on Pearse St!

You’re very welcome! Yeah, it is a nice project but it is a little bulky. I suppose you can only make a laboratory building so aesthetically attractive – it has to be quite functional as well! I draw encouragement from the nice CRANN/Naughton Institute/Science Gallery building further up the street. That is a nice modern building built by Trinity – this looks to be good as well. Perhaps Trinity College are still in atonement for the horror that is the Arts Block!

The building is due to be signed, sealed and delivered come 2011. Watch this space!

Are you people mad?

The Arts Block is a masterpiece in comparison with these corporate behemoths.

I love the recessed . . *you can’t see me* . . three and a half storey penthouse level!

. . . and the grand civic entrance looks like it’s been designed with the roller shutter already in mind.

IE did some prelim work in Pearse St already on an underpass so the interconnector station will be accessible from this development.

Pearse Street has been mentioned for the A1GP track!

@Moofafoo wrote:

Pearse Street has been mentioned for the A1GP track!

what? more details please

@what? wrote:

Are you people mad?

The Arts Block is a masterpiece in comparison with these corporate behemoths.

The Arts Block is a masterpiece.

This isn’t; corporate is right, it’s the colleges own version of PPP, the developer gets half to let out, for 10 years, or so, in part return for building it. There will be a tesco on the ground floor.

And someone asked about the state of Nuzzum Bros above, there is a large plan for that whole side of the college, running from Luce Hall to the Beckett Theatre, which will retain the existing buildings along Pearse St, at the planners say-so lets note, and I guess the building stock won’t be refurbished until that goes ahead, which could be a while, the college’s fundraising is currently directed towards the biosciences building, the one being discussed here.

notjim, if i recall correctly, which I seldom do, the plan involves the movement of that nuzum bros terrace brick by brick further up and the creation of a new opening into the campus there…

Well I might be getting confused too and the college is very cagy about it so it is hard to check, but I think, no, it was the facade of the terrace nearest the CRANN building, the facades from the row of Edwardian shop fronts was to be attached to six houses further north along the terrace. The earliest version of this plan had Nuzzum Bros and the Bicycle factory demolished, but, I think and hope I am right, this was dropped even before it went to planning and the craziness with the shop fronts was stopped at the planning stage. The big loss is lots of the internal fabric of the terraces and the nice red brick civil engineering building facing the rugby pitch, the plan otherwise looked very nice.

the plan involves the movement of that nuzum bros terrace brick by brick further up and the creation of a new opening into the campus there…

Oh, for fcks sake..it better not be more of the Carlton ‘lets pretend it’s Lego’ approach to ‘retention’.

Doubltless the words ‘exciting’ and ‘statement’ and ‘gateway’ appear in the documents about the new entrance…

@Cathal Dunne wrote:

another street-level picture.

This particular diagram appears to show the (proposed) underground trains travelling approximately parallel to the current overground lines – i.e directly underneath them.

This doesn’t seem to fit in with the diagrams available for the current around-the-houses interconnector proposal from Irish Rail, where the underground lines would cross under the overground lines in an almost perpendicular fashion.

It’s all rather puzzling.

Ok I found the application for the development along the north edge of college:

1781/05

It is what I said, no plan to demolish Nuzzum Bros and the Bicycle Factory, but it was proposed to demolish the houses with the shop fronts and reconstruct the shops elsewhere. The plan was passed by the council except the bit about demolishing the shops; this condition was upheld by abp.

Grand. But i have a niggling feeling there was another proposal submitted in 2006 but yeh it was definitely the terrace you mentioned, the addresses of the buildings were in the nos 15-19 range or thereabouts…

Seamus i’m not sure. Is it meant to cross at a right angle? I wouldn’t mind that graphic, it’s not exactly for the contractors 😉

@alonso wrote:

Grand. But i have a niggling feeling there was another proposal submitted in 2006 but yeh it was definitely the terrace you mentioned, the addresses of the buildings were in the nos 15-19 range or thereabouts…

I have the same feeling, I do remember an earlier version that may or may not have been submitted that involved making a square by the Becket Theatre with a big gatehouse thing where Nuzzum Bros and the Bicycle factory are.

@notjim wrote:

The Arts Block is a masterpiece.

A masterpiece which used the wrong type of concrete so the “hanging gardens” effect was completely negated, a masterpiece in which only a small percentage of rooms actually have natural light and a masterpiece which has an internally confusing layout.

@Cathal Dunne wrote:

A masterpiece which used the wrong type of concrete so the “hanging gardens” effect was completely negated, a masterpiece in which only a small percentage of rooms actually have natural light and a masterpiece which has an internally confusing layout.

I think the circulation works better than any other academic building I have visited and that’s a lot.

I am happy to concede on the exterior, what’s wrong with the concrete? I mean that as a technical question.

Maybe we could move this discussion to the TCD thread

https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=6996

since Nassau St is the anti-Pearse St and so this is way OT.

@notjim wrote:

I have the same feeling, I do remember an earlier version that may or may not have been submitted that involved making a square by the Becket Theatre with a big gatehouse thing where Nuzzum Bros and the Bicycle factory are.

Iseem to remember that as well. In fact I have vague memories of reading a newspaper article were the journalist decried the fact that they would be destroying “our beloved Nuzzum Bros”!

C