North Lotts Developments
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New thread for the sites between spencer dock and point village…..cant find suitable thread to post msgs on these sites so it deserves its own thread. Just adding a pic of whats currently under development and sites yet to be developed along the north quays…..!! liam carrolls development progressing well:D:D Render of the anglo irish bank hq development.:cool::cool:
How does the recent court ruling affect (effect?:p) these developments?
They’ve completely stopped construction from what I can see!
Surely the development will eventually get the ok from the court or will it……???? its a great building,one of the best in the docks if completely built. Anybody have any info on whats happening next if the development has stopped!!???:mad:
One would assume it will prob get the go ahead eventually, but who knows? Anglo Irish may well be happy for the development to fall through given their current financial circumstances. The development itself was proposed to extend all the way down to the next (ruinous) building seen on the right hand side of the picture. To the left spencer dock block d, e and g are proposed by treasury holdings, there’s pictures of these elsewhere on the forum.
Attached is a few pics of what’s proposed next door! It would make for a very good vista if all was constructed.
Along with a few high rises it would be a great vista!!
Recent pic of the north docks, pity you only barely see the ncc roof from this angle. If the ncc was positioned to the edge of dock and pwc HQ pulled back from the dock, you be able to see the complete front of the ncc from the east of the docklands.:(
@donalbarry7 wrote:
One would assume it will prob get the go ahead eventually, but who knows? .
A new masterplan is currently being drawn up, it’d be a shock if it doesn’t include buildings of the height Carroll was building
johnnny21: doesn’t the fact that you can’t ‘see’ ncc from where you suggested just demonstrate what an uncoordinated mess it all really is? If anybody thinks this is what passes for townscape in a prestige area, then it’s not just a financial crisis we have. Whoever proposed that mis-shapen lump behind those period buildings should be done for sub-prime design!
Yes it is a bit of a mess!!!The ddda masterplans for docks were constantly changed because they realised they made mistakes everywhere from poor architecture, heights and landmarks etc etc!! But lets hope they learn from mistakes in future sites/developments. There 2008 masterplan might help sort some of the the mess out…!!!
@johnglas wrote:
johnnny21: doesn’t the fact that you can’t ‘see’ ncc from where you suggested just demonstrate what an uncoordinated mess it all really is? If anybody thinks this is what passes for townscape in a prestige area, then it’s not just a financial crisis we have. Whoever proposed that mis-shapen lump behind those period buildings should be done for sub-prime design!
It confirms that STW paid no attention whatsoever to what would adjoin their PWC fortress. That building is absolutely devoid of context.
Peter you are correct on the PWC building but now that most of the glass has been added to the front of the conference centre there is no doubt what the most dominant building is on this part of the liffey
Gaaaaaaaaaaah.
The pics shown are lovely.
But put another 10 storeys onto it ffs.
It just look pathetic to have these squarish building’s built all the same height. They just wouldn’t have this crap shits blocks in other cities. They wouldn’t spend millions on designing low rise city centre redevelopment plots. They just wouldn’t build this low on the city riverfronts anywhere else in the world in this day and age.Look at many examples.
Rotterdam
Auckland
Sydney
London
BarcelonaEven cities in Eastern Europe are building high rises.
Many cities even smaller on Dublin are capitlising on building gleaming high rise towers on their grand riverfronts.
It was first all square box buildings in the first ,masterplan. After a few years, of the DDDA going, oh we’ve made mistakes on our first masterplan of the Docks. it’s was then changed to square box buildings with a few landmark towers. Oh great…………
NOW the DDDA are finally going ok, we’ve made mistakes again. We need proper high rise cluster towers in order to create a proper urban framework for this area within the city.
bla bla bla. Its like highracknaphobia in this country.
The buiildings are bland all being 6- 9 storeys ffs.
dave123: you’re just dead wrong and high-rise equates with neither high-density nor ‘modern’; I think you’re thinking of Oz as the ideal modern city (as in ‘The Wizard of…’) – it’s all fantasy and make-believe. The Docklands are (in part) depressing because of the badness and blandness of much of the design, but you can get bad and bland high-rise, and they tend to kill the street-life around them stone dead.
They’re not evil you know, high rises. If you stay perfectly still, they wont fall on you.
Just like constuction cranes? Oh, yes they do (eventually). And you know, if you lift your eyes somewhere between pavement level and infinity, non-highrises can be interesting.
Of course they can, NCC is beautiful, as is the GPO. I’ll just invert and reiterate the statement.
Cranes are not to be trusted, you know this john.Superb photo – Thats a superb sky in that photo Johnny21
“NCC is beautiful”
I never thought I see that. After my previous attack on this lump of shite and the abuse I got in return, I really should let it go, but I’m afraid I can’t, the NCC is a crime against all the sensibilities I hold dear, it’s nothing short of a travesty. I’m not a conservationist by any stretch, and I’m not against big buildings, but I saw this from Merrion Square recently and it’s a fucking disgrace, Kevin Roche has done nothing of interest since he won the Pritzker Prize in ’82, it’s like something a 1st year architecture student might present as their first house design, but it’s been blown up to the point where it ceases to be funny, and the fact that it then gets built, is like a bad dream.
If a crude, overblown, glorified, gimic by a has-been is now what passes as architecture then I want out.
But, yes nice photo Johnny21… photomerge CS3?not sure if this is in the right thread as I’m not that familiar with the Docklands…but the Sean O’ Casey Community centre is looking great
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