my ideas for dublin metro

why the shamrock?

the scale and perspective of the podium and escalator look wrong, and there would be an issue with people climbing onto the podium and falling over the far edge of the escalator shaft.

Part 2

I present you with part 2 of the proposed draft concept.

I welcome your support and comments in making this real…

eh tbh I’d rather enigineering factors determined the shape of the tunnels

Why the shamrock?

Because Ireland needs to relook at its heritage

the scale and perspective are wrong…

yes its a photoshop mockup… its just an idea…
Can you model it for me in your spare time for free?

Yes people could fall over I already thought about this…

1. guarding to 1100mm glass or stone
2. a net
3. it turns into a pond at night time

Any other questions?

yeh it needs a canopy. What’s next, drivers dressed as leprechauns?

Just a side note, AFAIK the LUAS will onyl have 1 track on that street, the southbound track will be going down Hawkins St

… well if the RPA have their way, luas will be going fucking everywhere :rolleyes:

because ireland needs to wha’? awful idea, i’m sorry.

it’s up there with the dublin bay extension spoof. why not use a cross? or the profile of a pint o’ de black shtuff and we could get brendan grace and the dubliners to take people’s tickets.

Every tunnel is subject to engineering factors whats your point?

Melbourne here we come…

@alonso wrote:

………What’s next, drivers dressed as leprechauns?

LOL:D

@shamrockmetro wrote:

Because Ireland needs to relook at its heritage

Chrikes David McWilliams is banging on about this on the telly at mo, and its on the net at the same time …

I actually like it, it gives me a laugh – to coin an appropriate Irish name, “The MetroSham” 😀

Off now to probe part 2 of this proposal – BTW is there any need for this to be in two threads? -…

wheres bono can you find him?

ah now you’re just taking the mickey.

@sw101 wrote:

ah now you’re just taking the mickey.

I think you might be right – even to the form of two stand-alone threads, not completely unlike a tram system I can think of…Rock on anyway ShamMetro – at the rate things are going we’ll probably see this yoke first…

Good skills on the PS.. but the shamrocks? C’mon like!

Good to see Westmorland St. has been completely pedestrianised.

Any chance you could do us up a montage of how College Green might look in 10 years?

brilliant stuff. i never thought of it before, but really, when you take all things into consideration, nothing says ‘Ireland’ quite like ‘shamrock’.
i especially like the idea of hurtling through the depths of dublin, safe in the knowledge that its through a shamrock shaped hole that i’m in, as opposed to say, a circular one, or god forbid, one in the profile of a rose.

interesting idea. however
there would need to be a bit more space under the spire for foundations and soil subsidence etc.
they probably wouldn’t need to be so tall. more like the pics you have shown rather than the section.
you have only shown 2 train lines. would it not be better to plan for more… while we don’t have a particular good track record in this country of doing this but maybe you break the mould. perhaps in 50 years time we will want more and then your design will be messed around with.
take a look at paris’s metro which has beautiful entrances… maybe you should be thinking like this rather than a hole in the ground. you can still have your shape but it will need a grand entrance to show off our wealth as a nation 🙂

i presume this is for some college project rather than real life.

I mean can you imagine New York without the apple shaped subway tunnels?

shamrockmetro-

Am I right in thinking this is just an exercise in alternative aesthetics? You don’t seem to be addressing the issues of Metro alignment, frequency, station capacity, etc.

@alonso wrote:

eh tbh I’d rather enigineering factors determined the shape of the tunnels

Oh alonso- where’s your sense of o’heritage?

Romantic Ireland’s dead and gone,
It’s with O’Leary in the boring, regtangular, engineer-designed grave.

*tugs forelock*

PS Is that Bertie sitting in the passenger seat of the car outside the bank? I can’t really remember what he looks like…

@FIN wrote:

i presume this is for some college project rather than real life.

A college prank more like it

er….. some people have an awful lot of spare time.

I found Bertie! He’s lookin at the timetable on Westmoreland Street. It says next train due 20:13.

@shamrockmetro wrote:

wheres bono can you find him?

Ho ho ho – this could be start of the new thread, “How well do you know your altternative Dublin?” 🙂

Anyhow don’t know where Sir Bono is – he may be already down under the street. BTW ShamrockMetro how’s M & A working out? 😉

Bono’s wearing a black hood looking down the escalator shaft. He may be suffering from Vertigo, he doesn’t appear in the second image because he doesn’t like the Elevation:D 😀 😀 🙁 :rolleyes:

I’ll get me shamrock shaped coat!

This whole thing reminds me of the time I bought shamrock shaped green bagels at about 5 am drunk in NY on Paddys Day.

sham-

Quit editing your posts.

I smell a troll…

nah Devin that’s the tura lura luas

@alonso wrote:

Bono may be suffering from Vertigo, he doesn’t appear in the second image because he doesn’t like the Elevation

LOL

@Devin wrote:

LMAO

This thread is definately worth the laughs 😀

This thread is hilarious:D

Perhaps the whole idea could be given a trial run by putting shamrock-shaped cable cars on the SUAS?

no suas…

1. Dublin needs something you can take photos of in the rain and wind day and night
2. Tourists from the airport would really know they are in Ireland when they stop at this station

“thats a big shamrock”

3. Dublin should be no 1. in the guinness book of records (it’s is an irish book?)
4. Dublin needs something thats weather proof and bomb proof beauty that never fades!

@ctesiphon wrote:

sham-

Quit editing your posts.

I smell a troll…

I will be a troll for this thread and you know where to find me…

under the oconnell st bridge!!!!!! in a big dark hole

Too wacky for Dublin?

…And the point of this thread is what exactly?
Time to close it

Might as well just stick an Irish flag above the exit instead of extravagant (Celtic?) symbols……that’ll save a few bob!

@Morlan wrote:

Too wacky for Dublin?

Saw that being erected in the early 90’s…think it’s (wackiness) might have a connection with La Comédie française just around the corner:D

On November 14, you will be able to board a Eurostar train that will get you from London to Paris in a little over two hours, or to Brussels in a little under. Building the “High Speed One” international line has cost £5.8 billion, or nearly $10 billion at current rates. And where will you catch that train? The gothic fantasy of St. Pancras, a station that missed out on the 20th century altogether. It is an almost surreal conclusion to a 40-year saga.

10 billion at current rates???? can anyone compare this with our metro north line???

@shamrockmetro wrote:

On November 14, you will be able to board a Eurostar train that will get you from London to Paris in a little over two hours, or to Brussels in a little under. Building the “High Speed One” international line has cost £5.8 billion, or nearly $10 billion at current rates. And where will you catch that train? The gothic fantasy of St. Pancras, a station that missed out on the 20th century altogether. It is an almost surreal conclusion to a 40-year saga.

10 billion at current rates???? can anyone compare this with our metro north line???

Don’t know about Dublin, but 2 weeks ago over here, the RATP announced plans to build a 40 km circular metro line around Paris called (The Métrophérique), it would be situated at a distance of about 2km from the actual Périphérique, have a station every 1km and link up with all the existing metro stations on the city outskirts.
Estimated cost: Eur 6 Billion.

@constat wrote:

Don’t know about Dublin, but 2 weeks ago over here, the RATP announced plans to build a 40 km circular metro line around Paris called (The Métrophérique), it would be situated at a distance of about 2km from the actual Périphérique, have a station every 1km and link up with all the existing metro stations on the city outskirts.
Estimated cost: Eur 6 Billion.

Will this Paris metro be underground or partially underground? If not a comparison with the cost of metro West is more apt, which *should* cost much less than 6 billion

@JoePublic wrote:

Will this Paris metro be underground or partially underground? If not a comparison with the cost of metro West is more apt, which *should* cost much less than 6 billion

It will be underground : City Hall already has plans to construct an orbital Tramway also, a 7km stretch of the new T3 Tramway line was inaugurated last year.

It might be more usefull to compare the projected cost of Dublin’s Metro North with the London’s jubilee line extension completed in 1999.

Length: 16km
Stations: 11 (5 new 6 rebuilt)

Final cost: 5.02 billion euro at 1999 prices (initial projection 3bn) substantially over budget but a very successful project.

As you know, they went for underground stations with bells on, many handed to individual architects etc, looks like we may well get bargain basement yokes as a ‘cost saving’ measure.

Shanrockmetro, are you by any chance responsible for this entry to the original U2 Tower competition?! :

http://ireland.archiseek.com/unbuilt_ireland/dublin/u2_tower/magill/index.html

In other news the department of transport has changed it mind on Celtic Design and has issued a new uniform:

Dublin Bus will be the first to adopt the new uniform followed by the dail

The move is expected to increase tourism by 10% per year and instead of australians saying yeah I have a
6 metre pet crocodile in my back garden called “Irish Breakfast” Tourists will be saying
“Ireland is crawling with lepricorn’s with broken english”

@alonso wrote:

This whole thing reminds me of the time I bought shamrock shaped green bagels at about 5 am drunk in NY on Paddys Day.

In ten years you will be able to have you green bagel at 5am in westmoreland street while waiting for the first train home in the biggest and most beautiful shamrock in the world and say

“Dublin rocks farking lepricons with broken english they made me craic”:D

You have ceased to make sense.

look just trying to keep the thread alive no harm… where is middle earth?

Another alternative city…

http://www.forgottenfutures.com/library/venice/venice8.gif

Any others around?

does anyone believe that article that frank mac wrote on saturday???
can Ireland really not afford a metro to the airport????
considering how much it spends on roads???
Or are taxi drivers and bus drivers and shell afraid of metros?

The €184 billion National Development Plan 2007-2013 builds on the significant social and economic achievements

http://www.ndp.ie/docs/NDP_Homepage/1131.htm

Are you telling me that out of 184 billion the government cannot find 10 billion for a metro????

I was in valencia this year and was amazed at how fast the metro was into the city and cheap
it was 2.20 euro and took about 38 minutes when considering the distance and number of stations was quite good. I once caught the 16a from camden st and it took 2 hours in peak hour and cost 1.80euro.

The express buses cost 3 times and travels what almost half the distance as the train in valencia and is slower and less comfortable???

WHY IS THIS??????

VALENCIA:
Population of the urban area was 1,212,000 as of 2000 estimates. ???
Rafelbunyol – Aeroport 12.37 miles (19.8km) 21 stations 25,450,000 million people

DUBLIN
Greater Dublin Area 1,661,185.

Im waiting for your mud!

Frank has always been anti-Metro???????
Yes, Shell are afraid of Metros.????
Valencia is bigger than Dublin.???

T21 will go ahead, but slowly. We will get an Airport Metro of some description, as some stage..

this is what valencia got!

do we need any more fk calatrava!