"Modern" Protected Structures in Dublin
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Anyone know what “modern” structures (modern as in post War 20thC) DCC has on the Record of Protected Structures?
Given the off hand removal of a great curtain wall on Suffolk St last year, the much reported planned demise of Liberty Hall (icon of it’s era etc etc etc), reports of BOI on Baggott St being up for the chop, is there a skewed focus on particular eras rather than a holistic view of all of Dublin’s built environment?Politicians, public buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough.
A few that I found on the list:
Archer’s Garage (Rebuild)
BusThe ’30s council flats, Chancery House, on Chancery Street are on the Record of Prot. Strucs.
I wonder what the youngest building on the Dublin RPS is? It must be between the Carroll’s Building and the Berkeley Library.
@phil wrote:
Or Archer’s Garage 😀
Or for an even newer ‘rebuild’ example there’s 86 Thomas Street – the Thomas House pub – a Protected Structure totally rebuilt behind the facade about a year ago.
There’s also 16 Parnell Square (Georgian house at the corner of Gardiner Row) – demolished and rebuilt from scratch around the same time as Archer’s.
Not to mention the protected former Irish Times WSC terrace’s 1950s rebuilds clamped in the middle – but that’s just picking holes :p
@Paul Clerkin wrote:
There is likely to eventually be some infill development on the site. Quinlan has always looked for ways to “add value” to existing buildings such as the infill plans for one of what was then the Savoy Group of hotels (can’t remember which one at the moment) and the Knightsbridge estate.
Is the Investment Bank of Ireland at Leeson Street Bridge and Fitzwilliam Place (c. 1982) on the Record of Protected Strcutures?
Hasn’t the horse already bolted having Archers still on the list?
Paul Clerkin wrote:http://www.irish-architecture.com/news/2006/000087.htmlCOULD BANK OF IRELAND’]
Just reading the full text of this article, I’m starting to feel the building had better be listed sooner rather than later! What exactly does Ronald Tallon mean by a new owner “might get an extra floor on Baggot Street – it’s quite capable of taking it alright”? Would this not upset the composition? And how might an extra floor be executed – as a facisimile design? Would you still be able to get matching materials for a seamless look? Or maybe he’s thinking of a heritage mansard roof? Or a glass-canopied hkr-special perhaps??
And an atrium over the plaza? That would certainly respect the design!! Maybe a glass cage should be built over the whole thing.
No doubt a fascimile storey would be proposed on the lower front block – a very cheap and easy way to make big rental gains…
The horse has bolted indeed – why was Archer’s Garage built with cheap aluminum windows?
At least they look reasonable on the ground floor.
Steel frames are still available in the UK, even for domestic installations. They ought to have been forced to source them there.
Of course if the steels had already disappeared pre-demolition, then Planning probably couldn’t enforce the sourcing of such an expensive material that’s probably not even made in this jurisdiction anymore…The windows of the rebuilt garage were a bummer.
Something else from that article on BoI Baggot Street needs to be taken up:
The bank building didn’t involve the demolition of Georgian houses
What are these then, Christmas trees? :
.What a spectacular juxtaposition – if anything even more preferable to what we have today, though doubtfully the case at street level. A remarkable sight from this location at least.
Isn’t the Georgian on the opposite corner of James Street a replica too? 🙁
Not so much a replica as a makey-uppy
@GrahamH wrote:
What a spectacular juxtaposition – if anything even more preferable to what we have today, though doubtfully the case at street level. A remarkable sight from this location at least.
Isn’t the Georgian on the opposite corner of James Street a replica too? 🙁
As I recall it’s dodgy.
Those two houses in the last picture were not right on corner of James’s Street. There were about four more again to the west of them, so somebody’s giving you false information about no Georgian houses being demolished for the bank, Emma. The ground-floor remains can be seen after demolition (below).
The authors of this publication (A Future for Dublin, 1975) agree with you about the juxtaposition, Graham.
.Yep – reading back on the story from The Destruction of Dublin, there were six houses remaining fronting Baggot Street as can be seen above. Deirdre Kelly sought an injuction from the High Court for their temporary protection, claiming the oral hearing for the terraces’s demolition to be ‘null and void’.
“Two days before the writ was issed, the bank hired a demolition crew and gave them
@GrahamH wrote:
Deirdre Kelly sought an injuction from the High Court for their temporary protection, claiming the oral hearing for the terraces’s demolition to be ‘null and void’. …. “Two days before the writ was issed, the bank hired a demolition crew and gave them £30,000 to ‘shift these houses within a week’…”
The things they had to go through back then!!
Can you imagine all of us on this forum 30 years ago: ‘Ah jaysus, another five are after being demolished this morning on Mount Street’!It’s interesting that it’s taken only 30 years from the demolition of these georgians to worry about the future of the building that replaced them.
@Paul Clerkin wrote:
It’s interesting that it’s taken only 30 years from the demolition of these georgians to worry about the future of the building that replaced them.
I think 30 years is about right to decide whether a building is good or bad (assuming that it is somewhat controversial to begin with)?
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