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- April 11, 2005 at 9:24 pm #707774
GrahamH
ParticipantI thought I might as well start up a Dundalk thread, so anything relevant to the town can be chucked into it π
It would be fitting to begin with the town’s magnificently austere landmark building, the newly restored Court House on Market Square, built between 1813 and 1818/19.

The portico is directly based on the Temple of Theseus in Athens, as with many public buildings and garden pavilions of its age around Europe, such as at Hagley Hall in Worcestershire.
April 11, 2005 at 10:08 pm #752605Anonymous
Inactive@Graham Hickey wrote:
I think Dundalk is finally deserving of a thread of its own.
Now, what to begin with…oh
Now where have I heard that before? π
Seriously no Dundalk thread would be complete without a full discussion of the Imperial Hotel π
April 11, 2005 at 10:16 pm #752606Anonymous
InactiveThat Brian O’Halloran extension works very well through respect for the existing building lines, the chimneys are good although I don’t see a great difference between them and a lot of the simpler Victorian stacks from 1840-60. Nice to see granite detailing on the side elevation of a building that relies so much on its grand Front elevation.
April 11, 2005 at 11:54 pm #752607Paul Clerkin
Keymasterand for those who like ruins…
outside Dundalk…
Philipstown Mill
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/louth/dundalk/19thc/philipstown.htmlCastle Roche
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/louth/dundalk/roches_castle/index.htmlApril 12, 2005 at 12:14 am #752608GrahamH
ParticipantWhere is that Castle Roche Paul? Often wondered when reading about it there…
Yes, the granite of the Court House goes all of the way round on both sides. Magnificent!


As for the chimneys – the Victorians may have imitated, but it was the late Georgians who fully developed the intimidating potless chimney – the power stack π
Ah the Imperial – Dundalk’s Liberty Hall. Alas unlike the former, it is an icon of its age for all the wrong reasons.

Seen from miles around, instead of the gothic spires and crenellations of the cathedral romantically gracing the town’s skyline as its sole landmark, one must observe the fight between it and the Imperial’s plant room, disgracefully continuing to be embellished with a host of telecommunications antenae.

It’s going under extensive renovations now – they’ve completely shut down, a la the Shelbourne – albeit in something of a different league π
April 12, 2005 at 1:18 pm #752609dc3
ParticipantSomething new & tall is now visible from the bridge, on the right hand side as you come South into Dundalk from the border. Apartments? Shiver.
The “new” racecourse building has a certain elegance, but it looks a little too small on that bleak and windswept site.
April 12, 2005 at 2:08 pm #752610mickeydocs
ParticipantThe racecourse itself is quite cool…. however it does not blend too well with the estuary… shouldn’t have been allowed in this location but sadly inevitable due to the ring-road.
@dc3 wrote:
Something new & tall is now visible from the bridge, on the right hand side as you come South into Dundalk from the border. Apartments? Shiver.
The “new” racecourse building has a certain elegance, but it looks a little too small on that bleak and windswept site.
April 12, 2005 at 2:59 pm #752611Paul Clerkin
Keymaster@Graham Hickey wrote:
Where is that Castle Roche Paul – often wondered when reading about it there…:)
in cowboy country near the armagh border – not sure exactly – wasn’t paying attention when the sister took me there…. its in Harbison’s monunment of ireland with a set of co-ordinates
April 13, 2005 at 1:40 am #752612GrahamH
ParticipantYikes – it’s up there, the pictures will do just fine thanks π
April 13, 2005 at 1:58 am #752613Devin
ParticipantThe Court House portico & blank flank walls look incredible in the old B & W photo. Although it still looks great in the ‘now’ photographs, it seems a bit cluttered to the front.
April 13, 2005 at 2:03 am #752614GrahamH
ParticipantYes, all of that 70s stuff littered about should be removed completely.
The trees look very stately and picturesque in front though and should be retained I think.
It’s a pity the railings had to go down – the drama of the building rising out of the ground has been lost πApril 13, 2005 at 9:56 am #752615Anonymous
InactivePaul Clerkin wrote:and for those who like ruins…outside Dundalk…
Philipstown Mill
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/louth/dundalk/19thc/philipstown.htmlWhere is this?
April 14, 2005 at 6:04 pm #752616Paul Clerkin
KeymasterPHILIPSTOWN-NUGENT, a parish, in the barony of UPPER DUNDALK, county of LOUTH, and province of LEINSTER, 2ΓΒΎ miles (W.N.W.) from Dundalk, on the road to Castle-Blayney and on the river of Philipstown; containing 459 inhabitants. It comprises, according to the Ordnance survey, 1035ΓΒΎ statute acres of land, chiefly in tillage. Here are the extensive flour-mills of Messrs. Keiran, fitted up in a superior manner; and at Hack*ball’s Cross is a station of the constabulary police. It is a curacy, in the diocese of Armagh, forming part of the union of Baronstown; the rectory is appropriate to the dean and chapter of Christ-Church, Dublin. The tithes amount to ΓΒ£107. 13. 5. The glebe-house is a handsome residence surrounded by neatly planted grounds; and nearly adjoining it is the church of the union, which is noticed in the article on Baronstown. In the R.C. divisions also the parish is in the union or district of Baronstown.
April 15, 2005 at 10:22 am #752617roskav
ParticipantYou have to fiddle with navigation on the site a bit … I can’t give a direct link to the search results for the project … but here’s one to the facade shot of the newly restored Town Hall by Van Dijk Architects.
http://www.roskavanagh.com/php/user_system.php?action=view_photo&resource_id=1342
April 15, 2005 at 5:25 pm #752618GrahamH
ParticipantGreat photo Ros – impossible to get a long shot of the building without a wide lense!
I was exceptionally annoyed (still am) that vast sums were lavished on this building’s exterior and interior, yet they failed to reinstate the Victorian sash windows – instead keeping the chunky timber casements put in probably when the building was rebuilt after fire in the 1940s.
They would have made such a difference πOtherwise it was a job well done, and the entrance columns, which used to be black, look fantastic in that regal red.
It was built as the town’s Corn Exchange in around 1859-64 just at the end of the Italianate craze, but the company went into liquidation inside a few years when it moved into the town’s ownership. A quite grand auditorium was built inside I believe, but it was gutted by fire and replaced with a vaguely Art Deco interior.
April 15, 2005 at 5:38 pm #752619roskav
ParticipantHere are a couple more… you can choose the project “Dundalk Town Hall” on the drop down menu on the Architecture section of the site for all the photos!
http://www.roskavanagh.com/php/user_system.php?action=view_photo&resource_id=1329
http://www.roskavanagh.com/php/user_system.php?action=view_photo&resource_id=1332April 15, 2005 at 5:42 pm #752620roskav
ParticipantBTW Graham … that pic is a combination of two shots side by side…. couldn’t get it all in one shot!…. Actually I still missed bits on either side…. plus had to do on a Sunday to escape the cars parked in front …. interesting place to stand still for a bit … everyone’s in a hurry…. bar those hanging around the entrance to the courts!
April 15, 2005 at 5:54 pm #752621GrahamH
ParticipantYes – and scribbling on the newly restored columns too :rolleyes:
Some beautiful images there – thanks! When you look closely you can see the slight distortion alright in the conjoined picture π
I haven’t been in the auditorium since the restoration – apparently complaints about the way the seats are raked, or rather how they aren’t…
It’s such an inviting building to use now – the difference is extraordinary from the dingy place it once was – though those vast walls and acres of floorspace probably make it even more intimidating now πJune 23, 2005 at 7:01 pm #752622GrahamH
Participant23/6/2005
I took these images a few months ago but forgot about them until I came across the same building recently, sadly on the An Taisce Buildings at Risk register:

It’s made up of a charming and unassuming pair of late Georgian houses at the far end of a street just off the town’s main street. There’a a fantastic stock of 19th century domestic classical architecture round here – this one is thankfully one of very few in such poor condition, though it is one of the oldest so is perhaps to be expected.
Another view here showing the remarkably surviving original sash windows and brick chimney; an inappropriate modern one in the middle looks like it was shoved in about 10-15 years ago:

This house is particularly unusual in that it features a carriage arch – very rare for such a modest building in Dundalk, if not nationally. The associated building next to it is as good as derelict π
The quote from An Taisce:
“Rare surviving unaltered early 19th century vernacular buildings. Divided into three sections comprising two cottages with boarded up door and window to ground floor and original 3 over 3 single pane sashes to first floor. Additional bay over carriage arch with sash over. Natural slate roof, brick stacks. An adjoining building to the South, which was part of the same development is ruinous with its rubble stone construction exposed. Vernacular buildings of this type retaining their architectural character are rare, not just in Dundalk but Irish towns generally.”
July 19, 2005 at 12:34 am #752623Anonymous
InactivePaul can you post the image from this article please?
http://www.irish-architecture.com/news/2005/000134.html
@www.irish-architecture.com wrote:
A new signature landmark development in Dundalk town centre has been granted planning permission from the local authority. The 37,300 sq ft scheme at Market Square in Dundalk has four retail units on basement, ground and mezzanine levels with prime frontage onto the square itself. According to the developer, “Douglas Wallace have designed a landmark development that leads the way forward in the urban regeneration of Dundalk town centre and will greatly enhance the physical and commercial fabric of Market Square.”
Charles Robey, Associate Director at Douglas Wallace said, “The development occupies a prime corner site at the western end of Market Square in the historic core of Dundalk town. In addressing frontage onto the square an elegant series of stone-clad vertical bays echo the terraced urban form of the town”.
“We have maximised visibility into the retail units which line Market Square with a glazed box wrapping around the corner onto the Demesne where the office entrance is accessed through a giant flat arch. The corner nature of the building is further accentuated by wrap-around louvres which shade the curtain-wall glazed offices at the upper levels. The setback penthouse level is roofed by a lightweight cantilevered plane which hovers above the floor to ceiling glazed walls”.
Dundalk Town Council stresses the importance of re-use, redevelopment and regeneration of underused and derelict sites whilst seeking to protect and enhance the character and environment of the town centre.
Martin McCormick of Douglas Wallace Architects, a native of Dundalk, is acting as Client Manager for the Market Square development. “We hope that this new building will bookmark an end of Market Square that has, over recent years, been neglected. We aim to put this part of Dundalk town back on the map, creating a sense of place around the square giving it the prominence it deserves”, he says.
It looks very attractive as a stand alone building what do you think of its integration in to Market Square?
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