Dublin&Belfast Olympics!
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What does everyone think about the possibility of a Dublin&Belfast Olympics in 2016/2020?? Just for the laugh wonder what the possibilities could be given that between both cities we may have/be able to build enough venues and accommodate enough spectators. Also bring the dual funding of Irish and British Governments?
Just a thought if London doesn’t get it in 2012!
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Bertie would sure back the bid, he’d get Abbotstown built at last on an even grander scale!!!!
I recon it would get some attention at the IOC if we had a go however but there’s no doubt that it would be a massive challenge just to even mount the bid. However like everything in Ireland once it started to look like a reality then everyone would be all for it. Just look at the Special Olympics, Luas, the Spike……..
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I concur with the sentiments of Rory’s first line.
Originally posted by rgalvin:
we may have/be able to build enough venues and accommodate enough spectators.Don’t think we’d have a problem here. If the Greeks are having problems filling stadia, I can’t see us doing any better.
Originally posted by Diaspora:
Complete with monorailReminds me of a classic Simpson’s episode, although ours probably wouldn’t do as well.
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So you’d be willing to waste 8-9 billion euros on a sporting event. Does the Olympics deserve priority over our health system and road and rail infrastructure. Is it more important than building schools and improving our college system.
More importantly is it a more pressing need than developing a sports infrastructure that will allow our children to safely participate in sport at a local level in every community in the state.
As a regular visitor to Greece I am absolutely appalled at the Greek Government’s decision to waste so much money on such an event at a time when they are beginning to feel the economic reality of european expansion (central and eastern european countries winning all of the fdi that they had become accustomed to).
Put it this way, do you believe Greece, with a population of 11 million people and an average industrial wage of €11,000 can afford to spend €9,000,000,000.00 on a sporting event.
I hope that the EU takes a good look at this and significantly reduces the infrastructural funds they have been pouring into Greece.
The Olympics is only good for sponsors. The Australian government has publicly admitted that the Sydney Olympics had very little net benefit for their country.
And please don’t give me the argument that the legacy will be world class stadia and sporting facilities… 9 billion on such facilities seems an awful lot of money in a country that is in a far graver economic reality to Ireland.
Originally posted by rgalvin
What does everyone think about the possibility of a Dublin&Belfast Olympics in 2016/2020?? Just for the laugh wonder what the possibilities could be given that between both cities we may have/be able to build enough venues and accommodate enough spectators. Also bring the dual funding of Irish and British Governments?Just a thought if London doesn’t get it in 2012!
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If by a very outside chance Ireland wanted to apply for the Olympics one day, why not make it a Rep of Ireland Olympics.
Belfast is part of the U.K!
Stadiums and facilities should be spread around the country thus leaving a legacy of good sporting facilities all over the country that would benefit all.
This should be happening anyway but in reality it is not of course.
The Olympics in Atlanta where not just held in Atlanta they where spread around Georgia in other cities like Birmingham.
Ireland is only a small country and it would make much more sense to do this.
Anyway why do we have to share everything with Belfast, it is not even part of this country, why are Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford left out, they are the cities of this country.
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I don’t think it would be possible at the moment to stage anything of major sporting importance here, realistically speaking. We are too lethargic and lack optimistic vision. Our facilities are Zilch! If money were to be spent on such projects the bleeding heart brigade would be complaining about lack of hospital beds, the homeless, the buses, the weather etc….(Maybe we should complain about the cost of bringing the pope here on his second potential tour) While the staging of the disabled Olympics was a great success and credit to all involved, however I don’t think the hosting of other major sporting events is viable. The GAA are too cloth headed and clannish, The FAI and the Rugby shower are too amateurish. I mean, we don’t even have a national stadium, yet alone a winning Olympic team. I could’nt imagine hosting anything with our fellow Irish Unionisit brethern. I would imagine that they would be so disagreeable as with everything else. Although it is a great concept.
Stay drinking in the pubs people …encourage your kids to do the same too, It’s what Ireland is all about and sure we’ll fix it tomorrow,…………….if the weathers good! -
That is a very good point Greg,
The ‘Brethern’ picketted an Ulster rugby match earlier in the year because it was held on a Sunday. 30,000 people (mostly moderate unionists) passed the picket and Ulster beat Leiceter or Northhampton 32-0.
I think a joint sporting event would be great possibly the Next Rugby World Cup pencilled in for the Northern Hemisphere along the lines of the Irish-Scottish bid, it might even get the GAA on board as they perceive rugby as a much smaller threat than Soccer.
But the Olympics is well beyond Irelands combined financial clout, if you look at the populations of previous games
Moscow 5m +
LA 5m +
Seoul 5m +
Barcelona 3m +
Atlanta 8m +
Sydney 3m +Athens the home of the Olympics and should have hosted the Millenium games
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i agree. we more than probably couldn’t hold anything even close to something like the olympics. and on a similiar point…we are crap as athlete’s really. i was wondering about a getting drinking contest into the games next time round. or maybe starting the galway female beech volleyball team.
oh and disapora, yea the rev. ian did protest to a sunday game but it’s not long ago that we were at the same thing down here. some people take their belief in an ghost-like thing a bit seriously.we as a country still let the catholic church dictate a lot. it’s a lot better than what it was but that’s thanks to time and sense. -
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I don’t think it would be possible at the moment to stage anything of major sporting importance here, realistically speaking. We are too lethargic and lack optimistic vision. Our facilities are Zilch! If money were to be spent on such projects the bleeding heart brigade would be complaining about lack of hospital beds, the homeless, the buses, the weather etc….I do not agree with you that complaining about the cost of staging a major sporting event does not make me a bleeding heart, nor does it say that I lack ‘optimistic’ vision.
Ireland will only develop into a true first world nation with considerable expenditure in all areas of our infrastructure. The most notable areas of need include transport (public and private), health and education. All of these areas require investment long before we can even contemplate the massive expenditure required to host the olympics.
In the next few years we will have two major stadia in our country of four million people. There are also a number of other well established venues. Sport is very important to the people of Ireland. The major sports in this country are football, gaelic football, hurling and rugby. We hold our own in both rugby and football, and the gaa is a shining example of amateur sport to the whole world. There is plenty of vision in all of these organizations, and the general level of professionalism is improving.
With the correct investment in our country we will lay the foundation for a nation to be proud of, and a nation which has risen from a very deep rooted recession which lasted throughout a generation. Our school/health/transport system will all be top notch if we continue the investment already underway in the NDP.
To waste 9 billion on an event, with very little follow on benefits would not be an act of optimism, it would be an act of the very highest ostenation, we would waste all of our tax money just to show the world that we are capable of hosting an event that will be remembered for 12 months at best, and what then.
I am not a bleeding heart… I am a believer in the potential of this nation. My optimism is well founded, and I believe that we can become leaders in technology & bio-technology as well as financial services. We are slowly starting to build cities that reflect our new found optimism. We are not stupid enough to throw all our resources at a corporate marketing event.
Maybe in 25 years time when all our investment has reaped a better state, but until then I certainly do not want my tax money squandered on a frivolous event such as the Olympics.
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Mickeydocs, i like what you said and well put.
When you say the whole nation I hope you mean the whole nation. Hopefully some day somebody will realise that there is a country to run here not just one city. Every body from Jim in Kerry to Paul in Donegal deserve to have the same standard of facilities, infraustructure as the East coast currently has.
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Totally agreed Sean about the need for investment in sport in the provinces, and I don’t just mean Cork, Galway and Limerick.
If we want to win at the olympics we’re going have to spend the money on youth, and make sure that the facilities are also there for teens. In fact we are an outstanding nation for underage athletes/sportspeople, but that success hasn’t been see at senior level, and we all know that this has as much to do with lack of infrastructure (coaching systems more so than physical infrastructure) as well as the good old Irish curse (cure).Thank Christ we have the comedy of you’re a star to protect us from hosting the eurovision ever again 🙂
Millstreet… what a tragic location for anything, but the guy has shown there is a market outside of Dublin for a whole variety of productions from sport to theatre.
Originally posted by GregF
Well done Mickeydocs & Co….well how about the Eurovision then….for Millstreet of course again?
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