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    J. Seerski
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    Taking on a TV theme, what would a programme about Dublin in the 20th Century name as 10 developments that forever shaped Dubin?

    Liberty Hall
    Ballymun
    Griffith Avenue
    IFSC
    Nass Road
    M50
    The Spike
    ILAC Centre
    Smithfield
    Tenement Demolition

    AS you can see, not all developments were good, though there impact on the city has certainly being profound. The M50 as an example, opened up the county and surrounds of Dublin to suburbanization. Ballymun had the effect of making high-rise public housing unattractive to Dubliners.

    Any other ideas?

    #745268
    GrahamH
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    Dublin-Kinstown Railway
    Loop Line
    Royal Hospital
    Parliament Building
    ESB Hq – at the time at least.
    Busaras – albeits impact short-lived.
    Wood Quay – stirred the city into action.

    #745269
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The Central Bank inso much as ensured the financial district stayed around Anglesea St until the early 90’s

    The dandelion market and resulting Stephens Green Shopping Centre both firstly as a sub culture ie barclay Dunnes william Tell, Bruxelles etc, then later the Centre as it extended the prime retail zone right to the top of Grafton St.

    Powerscourt town house restoration/conversion take a bow mr Power

    The Morrison Hotel or possibly the Clarence hotel restoration or both combined they both did loads for temple bar.

    O’Connell Bridge house

    Trinity Court in Pearse St, Dublins first methadone clinic, back as far as Tara St dart station still suffers greatly. Even early 90’s there were a number of retail choices on this stretch of Pearse St now everything is locked or has a bouncer

    Georges Quay plaza as it has sparked the south inner docklands

    The first 2nd generation office block in Blackrock, we can thank that one for Sandyford etc.

    The U2 Tower its not built but is a catalyst none the less.

    #745270
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The Inner Relief Road – brought dual carriage carnage to the city centre.

    #745271
    d_d_dallas
    Participant

    The METRO if it ever actually happens.

    #745272
    Morlan
    Participant

    The 24-hour Spar on Talbot Street to be honest.

    #745273
    Craig Davis
    Participant

    – the road-widening programme & associated mass evictions
    – Dublin new towns, including Tallaght & Blanchardstown; loosely based on the Myles Wright 1966 masterplan
    – 1916 Rising
    – the Age of Flight; Dublin Airport
    – the Temple Bar redevelopment

    #745274
    GregF
    Participant

    The County Hall down in Cork.

    #745275
    Irishtown
    Participant

    Liberty Hall – first real highrise in Dublin (Hawkins House doesn’t count and if it did, its only 3 years older) and Liberty Hall still remains one of the tallest.

    #745276
    Andrew Duffy
    Participant

    I’d say O’Connell Bridge House was the development that paved the way for Liberty Hall and Hawkins House and the subsequent floor area/plot ratio limit that meant Dublin never got any highrises of good or bad quality. I suspect most would have been bad, however.

    #745277
    GregF
    Participant

    The road widening schemes would have to be one of the major impacts made on the city as Craig Davis and Zap said….Whole streets were demolished and it took years for them to be rebuilt. This ruined many fine old streets that Dublin had and saw the loss of many familar landmarks. The evidence of such can still be seen today with the corners of many streets brutally lopped off as well as the makings of dual carriageways around.
    Frank Feely and Co legacy!

    #745278
    Punchbowl
    Participant

    Without a doubt the anihalation of whole streetscapes has been detremental in the planning and developing ‘ Mindset ‘ of Dublin. As they did, removing whole sides of streets rendered the opposite side ( Generally left untouched ) redundant. The street loses it’s original shape and purpose and ultimately, cos’ residents on the surviving side might find staring at the donnelly centre or wide swatchs of empty rubbleised space none to pleasent to greeted with when pulling the curtains in the morning, also becomes depressed and void and eventually allowed slip into dereliction. Every road widening scheme of this nature shows these symptoms.

    How many City crossroads still maintain the original four corners?

    Cheers
    Dave

    #745279
    Irishtown
    Participant

    Originally posted by Andrew Duffy
    I’d say O’Connell Bridge House was the development that paved the way for Liberty Hall and Hawkins House and the subsequent floor area/plot ratio limit that meant Dublin never got any highrises of good or bad quality. I suspect most would have been bad, however.

    Hawkins House was built in 1962. Liberty Hall & O’Connell Bridge House were both built in 1965, although I don’t know when in 1965 each was.

    And this next bit is a little off topic, but…

    I just have to say, since its right next to Bridge House, The O’Connell Bridge Tower is simply one of my favourite buildings on earth.

    #745280
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I think O’Connell Bridge house was built first, I lent my Destruction of Dublin out recently so I can’t check. But I think remember seeing a picture of O’Connell Bridge House completed and scaffolding up on Hawkins House.

    Re: Tower House it is one of the best pieces of urban architecture (Vs Govt budget not important) in Dublin, You are not alone in your appreciation of it, John Ronan bought it a few years ago, and converted its upper floors into Apartments

    #745281
    Irishtown
    Participant

    Oh man, when I move to Dublin- I have to live there!!

    #745282
    Richards
    Participant

    Here are the buildings/areas of Dublin that I consider changed Dublin
    Corporation Housing schemes of the 1930’s (i.e Crumlin, Cabra)
    Temple Bar
    Archers Garage (and its demolition)
    Ex Bord Na Mona Building on Baggot Street
    The original Terminal in Dublin Airport (Collinstown)
    The Square in Tallaght c.a. 1990
    The DART in 1984
    The pedestrianisation of Grafton Street incl. the paving
    The Arts & Commerce Block in UCD Belfield
    Nelsons Pillar being blown up in 1966

    #745283
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Originally posted by Punchbowl

    How many City crossroads still maintain the original four corners?

    Unfortunately, it seems, none too many.

    From the sounds of it, the crossroads at St. Patrick St. and Dean St. was quite impressive, dubbed the four corners of hell due to the present of pubs at each of its corners – something I guess similar to Doyles Corner. What has replaced it though is truly terrible – an awful mis-shaped mess.

    #745284
    Cathal Dunne
    Participant

    What about the Grafton St. pedestrianisation?

    #745285
    GregF
    Participant

    The Wide Streets Commision (Although I wasn’t there to witness it’s effects)
    Stephens Green shopping centre debacle
    Eccles Street demolition debacle
    Gardiner Street demolition debacle
    Parnell Street demolition and road widening scheme debacle
    Patricks Street demolition and road widening scheme debacle
    Fitzwilliam Street demolition debacle (already said)
    Wood Quay debacle (already said) …….these are endless
    The Central Bank
    Port Tunnel
    LUAS

    #745286
    Morlan
    Participant

    I’m surprised nobody’s mentioned the Fr. Pat Noise Memorial.

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