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  • #706387
    bluefoam
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    I am interested to hear your thoughts on the phenomenon of ‘stencil graffiti’, has anyone noticed it around Ireland?

    http://www.stencilrevolution.com/

    Also, I came accross an article recently (online) about a guy who placed a car complete with caravan emerging form a mosaic floor in either Paris or Venice. The car appeared to have burst through the ground and onto the street above. Unfortunatly I cannot find it now, has anyone else seen this article, if so please let me know where to find it. :confused:

    #735069
    bluefoam
    Participant

    Sorry I spoke too soon….

    Found It!

    …..nice bit of work though

    Still interested to hear your comments on stencils!

    #735070
    Mrs. M. J. Lister
    Participant

    dont think this is something new, i remember some around dublin around ten years ago of a guy in a long coat with a shot gun and cross hairs, does remember these ?…… seen some really interesting ones around galway resently alot just by the bridge at the end of quay street……
    also nice site
    http://www.stencilarchive.org

    why not join the fun

    http://www.aouw.org

    there is some nice sticker action around these days too..

    /www.stickernation.net

    re the car & caravan, i dont know if it is the same artist but i did see some images very similar…… there was one of an u-bahn train pretruding from the ground in the middle of a town square and another the same but just the top of a submarine busting out of the ground… very nice
    m.j.

    #735071
    notjim
    Participant

    the stencils would be great if they stuck to hoardings and stayed away from stone, but they don’t, so they piss me off.

    #735072
    blue
    Participant

    I’ve seen a few anti-war/anti-globalisation stencils in Dublin and some are very good.

    Stencils certainly beat tagging as a street art form.

    I quite like the use of blood red in this one:

    An anti-war stencil in Dublin.

    #735073
    -Donnacha-
    Participant

    Just because these stencils may have some artistic merit in their own right, does that mean that it is acceptable to deface pavements, buildings etc. with them or any other form of graffiti? Tagging has to be one of the most offensive and moronic forms of so called street art around at the moment.

    #735074
    blue
    Participant

    I agree that defacing a permanent structure isn’t acceptable, especially tagging, but stencilling hoarding and other temporary structures is acceptable in my view. They can liven up a blank wall. On pavements, the stencilled work does not last very long therefore is not a problem.

    #735075
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Is it art though? Any cretin with a stencil and a spray can can leave behind an image. True artistic graffiti without the use of stencils must rank as superior.

    #735076
    blue
    Participant

    Is it art?

    Well art is รขโ‚ฌล“the use of skill and imagination in the creation of aesthetic objects, environments, or experiences that can be shared with othersรขโ‚ฌย (Britannica) and creating the stencil takes skill and imagination, which creates an image that some people enjoy.

    Graffiti has its artistic merits too but I prefer stencil graffiti because itรขโ‚ฌโ„ขs subtler.

    Taste I suppose!

    #735077
    Mrs. M. J. Lister
    Participant

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    http://www.banksy.co.uk
    this guy is amazing

    look around you almost every bit of space these days is telling you/selling you someting, you may not be able to afford to advertise on billboards, but stencilling allows you do put ‘your message there for free’.
    maybe not too much in dublin, but i love when you can walk around cities and see this creativeness all over everyting in the urban realm, this call tell you a lot about the people who occupy these spaces. also you can ofen see the different areas where different ‘urban’ artists frequent,

    Is it art though? Any cretin with a stencil and a spray can can leave behind an image. True artistic graffiti without the use of stencils must rank as superior

    Any cretin with a spray can can leave behind an image too, dont tink you can say one is better that the other. stencils reqire great thought and skill too, tinking of a good idea, designing,printing, cuting, and putting it up in an effective space.

    #735078
    Mrs. M. J. Lister
    Participant

    i dont know if this is true ???
    but this stencil says, TRAFFIC FUMES ARE SERIOUSLY DAMAGING YOUR HEALTH. sparyed on a pedestrian crossing in Tralee. surely the health warning shouldbe on all cars ????

    fekking vandals…… does pose another question are health warnings taking away from the beauty of you cigarette pack ??

    #735079
    F. Saunders
    Participant

    perhapsthe note on the pedestrian crossing should say “if you are reading this you are not looking out for traffic and could be hit at any moment by a large truck”

    #735080
    manifesta
    Participant

    Red glowsticks, green LED, purple-lit underground carparks. Seems that there’s an itch (one might call it a manic urge) to bring some color to the docklands. There’s loads of attention being heaped upon the Martha Schwartz plaza in Vegas, I mean, Grand Canal Dock south of the Liffey. Anyone seen these yet on the northside? These pieces would appear to be part of a large commissioned public art project, though I wasn’t able to find any specifics on the artist from a preliminary search. I know the DDDA had named 6 artists last year to participate in a public art scheme in the docklands, and proposals for the artists were due in Autumn 2006. This would appear to be a brainchild with some funding behind it.

    There’s some excellent subtle stencil work done on the blue wall to the left, outlining the shadow cast by the Sheriff Street bridge. The juxtaposition of bright color with crumbling rusted dockish imagery is pleasing, and at least (unlike the light-a-thon south of the river) it goes to sleep at night.

    Then, for something a bit more ‘old skool,’ complete with some shape revisionism in the foreground:
    (Sighs of relief on all sides that GRIFT seems to have kept his/her aerosol trigger finger in check. . . so far)

    If anyone knows more of this project, I’d be interested. I tried but, ahem . . . no dice.

    #735081
    manifesta
    Participant

    And then, for those who like to rail against the destruction of our social fabric and the scourge of vandalism (I do like to offer a bit of something for everyone), some more ‘traditional’ (AKA non-commissioned, done on the sly) stencil graffiti. Clearly, the worth of these (is it art or vandalism?) is always up for debate, but I think it’s interesting to note the ways in which artists can use shape, color and image to ignore, complement, or work against the fabric of the built environment.

    There’s something ephemeral about these images that endears them to me, whatever their ‘worth’ as design or ornament. Because they are nothing more than a coat of paint, they can easily be glossed over, leaving nothing remaining but their memory. They aren’t selling anything to me. They don’t bully me into a point of view or badger me to buy a product. They aren’t (like the tiny message in the crosswalk in a previous post) endangering my safety. And I know one day they’ll disappear and end up in the great cow parade pasture in the sky. But until then, love them or hate them, they exist. Part of the city that fell through the cracks, transient landmarks.

    The camera fella pops up in several locales throughout the city, including a triptych on Pearse Street I have somehow missed in this particular gallery.

    Like Banksy, only without the blistering social commentary. Or is there a blistering social commentary shrouded in the Asian-nurse-with-bear that I am somehow missing? Ah, hell. I knew I should have paid more attention in my semiotics class.

    And if you don’t like them (or happen to love them), feel free to treat this as an addendum to the ‘How Well do You Know Dublin’ thread. No politics or palaver, just good old fashioned city scavenger hunting. Where have you seen these characters last?

    #735082
    ctesiphon
    Participant

    @notjim wrote:

    the stencils would be great if they stuck to hoardings and stayed away from stone.

    Agreed.

    Of those 6 pics, the only one I have to guess is the last one- is it the boarded up building with the funny shopfront under the bridge behind Trinity on Pearse Street?

    Also, a tongue-in-cheek (or is it painfully accurate?) crit of Banksy from The Guardian ๐Ÿ™‚ :

    Quote:
    Supposing … Subversive genius Banksy is actually rubbish

    Charlie Brooker
    Friday September 22, 2006
    The Guardian

    Here’s a mystery for you. Renegade urban graffiti artist Banksy is clearly a guffhead of massive proportions, yet he’s often feted as a genius straddling the bleeding edge of now. Why? Because his work looks dazzlingly clever to idiots. And apparently that’ll do.

    Banksy first became famous for his stencilled subversions of pop-culture images]
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1878555,00.html

    #735083
    manifesta
    Participant

    @ctesiphon wrote:

    Of those 6 pics, the only one I have to guess is the last one- is it the boarded up building with the funny shopfront under the bridge behind Trinity on Pearse Street?

    That’s the one!

    Great article on Banksy. Thanks, ctesiphon. Now that’s how I prefer to encounter my blistering social commentary: in print form with a cup of coffee. But that’s just me. Perhaps I need to dust off my anarchist’s handbook and revisit my recipe for Molotov cocktails.

    For a slightly different (and more nuanced) take on the subject, there was a great bit in the New York Times’ 6th annual Year in Ideas issue about a British artist who uses what’s often termed ‘reverse graffiti’. It may or may not be art, but it raises interesting questions about the ethics and aesthetics of altering public space:

    Quote:
    THE 6th ANNUAL YEAR IN IDEAS]

    The original link is here

    Some images of Curtis’s work and others at Spacing Wire

    In terms of stencil graffiti/art/vandalism (take your pick), is it mainly the choice of location that is problematic? Hoardings are OK but stone is out? Or is it primarily a question of permanence and materials, e.g. would a chalk drawing on stone be less offensive? Or is it just a question of the image itself, where one person’s idea of a cool piece of art is another’s asinine guff? Returning to the example in the north docklands, would something like the Sheriff Street bridge project have more value for the city because it was granted permission first? It’s easy to slam flat-out vandals, easy even to slam Banksy. But figuring out what is pleasing about these bits of unexpected art– that might be harder, and more worth the debate.

    #735084
    PTB
    Participant

    I saw some of that reverse graffiti in london a few weeks back. It was an ad for a taxicab company sandblasted or powerwashed onto the pavement. Fairly cheap form of adverising I’ld bet.

    #735085
    Blisterman
    Participant

    I like that idea. Reverse graffiti.
    Very clever.

    Has anyone noticed the Phil Lynott stencilled graffiti around Dublin? It was done a few years ago.

    #735086
    wearnicehats
    Participant

    vandalism. pure vandalism

    #735087
    ctesiphon
    Participant

    Care to elaborate, wearnicehats? For example, are you referring to the ‘reverse graffiti’, to graffiti on hoardings, to graffiti on stonework, or to all of the above?

    @manifesta wrote:

    In terms of stencil graffiti/art/vandalism (take your pick), is it mainly the choice of location that is problematic? Hoardings are OK but stone is out? Or is it primarily a question of permanence and materials, e.g. would a chalk drawing on stone be less offensive? Or is it just a question of the image itself, where one person’s idea of a cool piece of art is another’s asinine guff? Returning to the example in the north docklands, would something like the Sheriff Street bridge project have more value for the city because it was granted permission first? It’s easy to slam flat-out vandals, easy even to slam Banksy. But figuring out what is pleasing about these bits of unexpected art– that might be harder, and more worth the debate.

    manifesta-
    I don’t think I’d put the Sherriff St stuff in the category of graffiti. Street art, yes]The Conscience of the Eye[/I]. He compared NYC, Style Wars-era subway graffiti from the 1970s/1980s with Parisian late-1960s graffiti, saying, in essence, that the NYC stuff showed scant regard for context, being all about promotion of the ego, whereas the Parisian stuff was more in the category of social commentary. (This was a time before the NYC stuff a) was commodified by the gallery system, and b) became for the practitioners an aesthetic end in itself [as, for example, in the Smithfield case cited above]).

    Funnily enough, I passed a bar in Seoul the other day that seemed to have the art of Jean Michel Basquiat as its theme (and Seoul bars sure know how to do attention to detail like few other places I’ve been- out-Basquiating Basquiat! :)). Then on my way ‘home’ in Sihung, I noticed a shoe shop that used the Basquiat name in its window advertising (I’d go out for a pic, but it’s lashing rain right now [hence the, eh, rambling post :o]). I mention this because afaik Basquiat worked in many transient materials on the street – chalk, etc – and was bemused / disgusted by the fact that art he had intended as transient became collectible purely because his name was on it. Same goes for Keith Haring, much of whose art was done in chalk on unpostered NYC subway advertising boards (though obviously he also embraced the highly commercial side of the art world too) . So not all ‘graffitists’ crave permanence and recognition- for some, the very transience of their chosen medium is the attraction, aiming simply to brighten up the day of the lucky few who happen to glimpse it before cleaners / the rain / the commodity scavengers get their hands on it.

    Vandalism, pure vandalism? I can’t agree. It’s far too nuanced to be dismissed so simplistically.

    And I can think of a dozen other ‘visual interventions’ in the publicrealm that I’d categorise as vandalism before all but the most crass graffiti made it onto my list. Sure isn’t the election, with all its attendant postering, just around the corner? Did someone say metropoles? The fridges on the bridge? Henrietta Street? Jeez, I’m beginning to sound like hutton. ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    Oh look, the rain is beginning to clear…

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