New Liffey pedestrian bridge
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The Times has a picture of it:
http://www.ireland.com/images/2002/1209/1036708373526.html
I’ve attached a copy, it is almost certainly copyright of Brian O’Halloran and Associates.
I think it’s extremely similar to the Millennium Bridge in London.
Thoughts?
The centre 44m swings open; it looks like the two pillars rotate and break the bridge in the middle.
The article is here:
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2002/1210/1571527748HM3BRIDGE.html
This has to have been one of the least publicised architectural competitions in years. I run an archcomp mailinglist with 24,000 subscribers on it, and I didn’t hear about it until after closing date. I wonder how many entrys the DDDA had.
Another bridge for the Liffey
DUBLIN is to get another bridge across the River Liffey.
The three-metre wide pedestrian bridge structure, will link the northside International Financial Services Centre with Government offices on the southside.
The cantilevered bridge, due to be completed in early 2004, will span the river east of the Matt Talbot bridge, from Custom House Quay to City Quay.
The winning design was unveiled yesterday by the Dublin Docklands Development Authority.
Its hard to tell what way it opens from that image.
I don’t think its that similar to London at all.
To answer your question Paul – from the press release
“The competition attracted over 80 entries from all over the world. The jury also commended the entry by Ahrends Burton and Koralek, Architects and Kellogg Brown Root, Engineers.
An exhibition of the entries to the competition will be held in the Atrium of the National College of Ireland, Mayor Square, IFSC II, Dublin 1 from Tuesday 10th December until Thursday 19th December from 9am to 5pm. “
If the bridge reminds me of any bridge its the Firth of forth Railway bridge (in terms of the principle behind it).
The new bridge seems to be a balanced cantilever solution with 2 sections each pivoting a quarter (river width) in from each quay.this link will explain the principle
http://www.pre-engineering.com/resources/forth/forthbridge.htmI would need to see a bit more detail but I think it is not bad. A reworking of a tried & tested system unlike the reworking of the suspension bridge principle in the Millenium bridge in London.
Well as a connection it will be pretty usefull I think, more so than then millenuim bridge. Can’t really tell from the image how it will look.
But I recall seeing before a mooted design for a pedestrian bridge at this point that incorporated a wier like thing that would have kept the water at a minimum height in the liffey and also incorpprated a lock to allow boats to ascend. Could be a better idea, me thinks.Well thank god we’re building a pedestrianised bridge, for the sake of building one, rather than some contrived nonsense like the millenium
I know the structural concept of a cantilever bridge such as this is much different from the suspension bridge that is the Millennium Bridge, but i still can’t help but see the similarity between the two… i.e. steel ties supported by shallow inclined v-shaped piers…
But maybe its just the picture… and i suppose it is premature to judge it on this one picture alone… still from initial impressions i can’t say i like it even if i don’t know why…
Would also like to see a view of it with Calatrava’s proposed bridge in the background…
Originally posted by JackHack
But I recall seeing before a mooted design for a pedestrian bridge at this point that incorporated a wier like thing that would have kept the water at a minimum height in the liffey and also incorpprated a lock to allow boats to ascend. Could be a better idea, me thinks.A weir is needed but I think the handiest solution would be just to put one in under the Matt Talbot bridge.
The proposal referred to previously was by Jim Horan as far as I remember.
The only problem Paul, with a weir under the matt Talbot, would be no access to smaller boats west of that bridge. Dublin Port boats sometime venture up that far.
Horan’s proposal incorporated a lock which wouldn’t work under the low Matt Talbot bridge.I believe that some of the bearings on the Matt Talbot bridge are so low they are submerged during high tides-hardly ideal
Some information on that previous proposal here:
https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?s=&postid=1857#post1857I see the proposed water bus got a mention in todays indo.
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=886134&issue_id=8473
As far as I remember, the water bus and water taxis are to go as far as the moorings outside the DDDA offices (where the boats are moored just past the bridge in the picture). I guess the weir would have to be further downstream than this.
The only mention I can recall of a weir in any documents produced by the DDDA (and I guess they would have to be involved) is for a possible one at East Link.
All these proposals are great are’nt they…….but will they ever come to fruition.
This was’nt as hyped up and publicised as other past developments probably due to the fear of objections.I remember the water taxi service for the Dublin Millennium (88) having a big picture on on the front page of the Times – idea died on its arse though
How come nobody has got this off the ground yet? There’s something absurd about a city having gridlocked quays and an empty river. Particularly as the centre expands in an east/west direction, this would be a great way of making short (but long on foot!) trips without laying any tracks or digging up anything.
Why did the original idea ‘die on its arse’? Surely a shuttle service from Heuston to The Point would make a tonne of cash.
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