Tara street gets go ahead
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I have to say I’m pleasantly surprised that Iarnrod Eireanns plans for the Tara Street station got the go ahead, I was convinced that it’d be turned down bacause it isn’t a five storey box. It seems to have survived relatively unscathed too which is all the more encouraging – there was no pointless chopping off of floors by An Bord Pleanala just for the sake of it. Anyway lets hope it actually gets built now.
It did unfortunately suffer the haircut that An Bord Pleanala insist upon – two floors are gone. My bet is that the top floor restaurant will be sacrificed for office space.
I’m fairly sure the Irish Times got the idea that the building will be taller than Liberty Hall from the original height of 61m rather than the revised height (about 55m, presumably).
The likelihood is that the building will be built; part of the frightening-sounding masterplan is that transport hubs in the city be more recognisable, hence the rather horrible Harbourmaster House that sprouted out of the side of Connolly station last year.
The cluster of groundscrapers in the area might start to look good when this is built and Hawkins House reclad. Any chance of College House, Apollo House and Liberty Hall getting a makeover?This is great news …it wil be a striking feature of the cityscape….let’s hope they remodel the loopline bridge too.
It could be painted up in nice bright colours ….but na …….it is too heavy and horizontal in appearance…. (‘m not going
on either about not being able to see the Custom House)
Get Calatrava in to do something fancy…….to match the new Tara Street station proposed……….it could all look contemporary, stylish, landmarkish and visually strong.The incorporation of Kennedy’s Bar into the glass building looks really awkward. I hope it’s just bad compositing.
True ….it would be better if Kennedys bar was maybe removed………….
but also, if they are to lower the height of the Tara Steet train station proposal,it will mean that it will look around the same height as O’Connelll Bridge House when viewed from a distance…….which will only mean that there will be no visual distinction (aka the 4/5 storey visual monotony effect)..so it could possibly look crappy.
In future Developers should aim alot higher in scale so that when the planning board require a few storeys to be lopped off. it will put the proposed building in correct proportion. I believe the planning board are visually illiterate at this stage…………….pity about the loss of the Tower by Fuscano properties in Smithfield too.
Dublin is becoming a featureless place….despite new developments.This shows how prominent it will be, and also how it certainly won’t be 61m:
Notice how much it hides “One George’s Quay Plaza”.
……a nice arched featured bridge would look good there too ….would’nt it………instead of the present loopline manifestation.
It says this on the Bord Pleanala site:
“the height of the development onto Poolbeg Street is reduced by 3.9 metres; the height of the development onto Tara Street is reduced by 7.8 metres; the overall height of the development onto Poolbeg Street and Tara Street is now at 44.9 metres; the overall height of the development forming the curvilinear part of the composition remains the same, 60.8 metres at the north apex and 57 metres at south apex”
Can anyone translate this? What does that bit about the height of the curvilinear part mean? How is this still 60.8m when it lists those reductions above? To be honest I can rarely make out what reports such as these are actually saying at the best of times.
Old rendering, looking roughly down Tara St:
New rendering from similar angle:
Notice how the dark section facing Tara St is now lower but the clear section is the same? I’m not sure which looks better though.
The top rendering looks kinda better …..well maybe,……..na, both look good……….but definetiley they should remove that pub …it looks awful jutting out there.
I hope the building itself will be covered in that sexy shiny glass as the images suggests ……we need a bit of that in Dublin. It has the potential to be a great contemporary focal point and anchor for the city……It won’t be pleasant for the owners of Kennedy’s while construction is taking place. I believe the owner has been in residence for a long number of years!
I was very happy myself and very suprised too that the scheme has got the go ahead. I’m especially happy as it will serve a major train station – public transport tying into high intensity uses and all that crack! (Guess my profession?!)
I also think its a nice design and could prove a good contrast to Liberty Hall – in fact, maybe between the Liberty Hall, the Georges Quay? buildings and the Tara St. proposal that Dublin could end up with an interesting cluster of different buildings in that location. (as long as dublin doesn;t end up with reams of c.60m only buildings on one side of the river to match in ways the clusters of c.5 storey (squat) only buildings on the other side)!
We may even get that ‘gateway’ effect on the Liffey that the arhcitects mentioned i.e. between the Liberty and tara st blocks.Greg F… Please! leave the poor loopline alone! Its not the prettiest of bridges but (and i’ll add my own subjective opinion here) i think it is interesting as a bridge, giving a bit of variation from the predomently stone, large bridges in the city centre – its very much of its time and i think even its covering of singage has something to say for itself – i.e. just showing that its part of a busy city and is moving along with it. also, I wouldn;t want to fill the city with Calatravas’ and, as i think i’ve said here before – i have some reservations about inserting more than one large cable stay type bridge in a low-rise and narrow river city like Dublin.
According to a friend who used to work in the engineering department of irish Rail, the loop line won’t be replaced, the engineers love it too much
True …………it’s a Victorian masterpiece in it’s own way……maybe then they should consider painting it in brighter colours as like the bridge down Talbot Street instead of drab grey….unless of course that’s the original intended colour.
the property section in today’s times seems to think that it will be taller than liberty hall, does anyone know for definite?
Going by the planning decision, the apex of the curved glass bit will be about a metre taller than Liberty Hall. The evaluation by an Bord Pleanala shows their surprising lack of data about the heights of the surrounding buildings:
http://www.pleanala.ie/REP/128/R128164.DOC
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