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  • #715487
    snag
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    Archer’s Garage on Fenian Street has been demolished, although it was listed as Grade 1. This is really atrocious.

    #715488
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    I was in work on Saturday and it was there …. by monday morning it was a pile of rubble …. I didn’t know its listing at the time but figured it was listed as demolition on a Bank Holiday Weekend normally suggests undue haste……

    #715489
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    For those unfamiliar with the garage

    Before

    Now

    #715490
    Jas
    Participant

    …. to stand up and be counted……

    I honestly thought that the days of buildings being pulled down illegally over weekends was gone. how wrong I was. I was familiar with Archer’s Garage and often thought what cool offices it would make. Very sad.

    Who were the architects and developers on the scheme? Actually who designed Archer’s originally?

    And when are we the people of Dublin going to stand up to cowboy developers? Perhaps this is a job for Archeire!

    #715491
    john white
    Participant

    Oh for $%*@’s sake! B&^()£ks!!
    S*^T! B^&%$£()rds!!

    I’m sick to death of this F^%&$*()KING S*&T!

    Is there NAYTTHING we CAN do collectively.
    This HAS got to stop. This country is so F$%^&*KING corrupt. You can get away with anything if you’re in with the right crowd.

    Pardon my F&^%*(NG french.

    John

    #715492
    john white
    Participant

    How often have companies been forced to re-build/restore buildings that they have illegally demolished?

    Is it illegal to demolish a Listed building?
    I presume listing can be overturned by the county planner or whoever. Who’s he?
    Why would this be authorised? To serve the public with a widened road? Or to satisfy the needs of some greedy developer. Why would a developer’s private business interests EVER come before preservation of a listed building? Does he have a pal in the Dail or An Bord Plannala?

    Surely something can be done.

    #715493
    john white
    Participant

    Thanks for the mail – you know who you are.

    As for what can be done:

    I wondered could we put on a march? I could talk to some friends [editors] in the Press.
    Then my girlfriend Gabrielle who first yelled in shock at the demolition on Sunday morning the 6-June-1999 when we were in the car – she suggested Marion Finucane. Apart from having the ears of half the country daily [is the radio show still going?] she was according to Gabby quite a rebel in the ’60’s. She was involved in a student sit-in at a Grade 1 listed building. Was it Sam Stephenson she was resisting? Hang on – she isn’t a qualified architect by any chance is she?

    Anyway, let me know what you all think.

    Perhaps Archeire’s spokesman could phone her show today?

    John

    #715494
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    UnF*(kin9 Believable!
    Were do these guys get off?! when do they get punished? More than a rap on the knuckles and ‘there now go make lots of money but don’t let me catch you at that again’..
    absolultley dumbfounded..

    #715495
    snag
    Participant

    Well, everyone who has posted a message here seems disgusted, so as John said, what can we do? Was there anything on the radio about it?

    Does anyone know about the history of the buiding?

    There are so few ordinary decent modernist buidings in Dublin that this really is a huge loss……

    Apparently it was definitely grade 1, it had been grade 2 (see today’s Irish Times).

    Anyway, what can/will be done?

    #715496
    owen
    Participant

    hang em high

    #715497
    MG
    Participant

    Even if they are forced to recreate it or fined, its too late, the laws need to be changed so that Gardai can stop the demolition without having to get a Judge out of his bed in the middle of the night.

    Fine them the full million = no profit in the development

    Force them to rebuild it EXACTLY down to room sizes inside so that its financially unviable as a large scale office or aprtment development

    Have a licensing scheme for developers in the City centre and revoke licenses for stepping over the line so they are not allowed to operate within the city boundaries.

    #715498
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Disgraceful… and no doubt the new development will be more the the same bland sterile apartment and office complexes that exist all over the city…..

    #715499
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    There must be some way to stop this happening again. Inthe 1960s / 70s the developers justified it on the grounds that the houses were too old and there were loads of them anyway but that was Georgian architecture and now there’s not all that much left. But this was only 50 years old and we have very little good mid century architecture in the city……

    #715500
    snag
    Participant

    Seems the developer is hotelier Noel O’Callaghan, of previously vandalising fame…..Davenport Hotel etc. Architect Tony Reddy, also something of a vandal, but in terms of erecting crass buildings rather than demolishing beautiful ones.

    To what degree is the architect reponsible in cases like this…..could they possibly ‘not know’what the developer was going to do?

    #715501
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    What has happened Frank McDonald? After being such a crusader in the whole ‘Destruction of Dublin’ era, he seems a little quiet of late…..with the outrage expressed here, it seems odd that nothing similar has happened in the public arena

    #715502
    Jas
    Participant

    O’Callaghan is definitely a vandal… the Davenport mysteriously burned out just prior to his purchase for an hotel…. in scenarios like this I reckon the architect has to know because otherwise how could they design the development……

    #715503
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    D/aimsigh me/ an foirgneamh dom fein ni/ ach se mhi/ o shin. D’aithnigh me/ gurbh sean-gharaiste e/ narch ionann le h-aon rus a bhfaca me roimhe sin.

    Bhi/ rud luaite ag Frank De/ Sathairn. I ndairire, gan e/ ce/ chomh bocht b’i/ an chathair, go minic an t-aon ghuth ciall ata/ ann.

    Yeh, Frank said something on it on Saturday. Regarding a public expression of frustration and disgust I’m prepared if someone in the know could suggest a suitable time ? Ask Frank to come and get a few piccies taken for publication next Thursday.

    Shane

    #715504
    Jas
    Participant

    Could always hit O’Callaghan where it hurts and mount a semi-permanent protest outside his hotels….. tell all his american tourists why he is been picketed – for destroying the heritage of the city

    #715505
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    I could set up an online form that would send an email to the City Manager and cc it to O’Callaghan Hotels to allow people to voice their opinions…… what do you think?

    #715506
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Folks, register your disgust at

    http://www.archeire.com/campaign.cgi

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