CologneMike wrote:Limerick national roads will turn into motorways (Limerick Leader)
Goofy wrote:I noticed today that there are extensive road works taking place on sexton street. I have also heard that some work has been going on in the Costeloes Yard/ St Johns Pavilion area. Are these works related to the City Centre Orbital route?
Limerick band set to be drummed out of home (Limerick Leader)
By Nick Rabbitts
ONE of the city's oldest brass bands could be homeless after Limerick City Council gave them until next Tuesday to vacate its Newtownmahon premises.
Two years ago, the St John's Brass & Reed Band - founded in 1865 - were served with a compulsory purchase order by city hall as their premises was earmarked to make way for the new city centre orbital road.
But the group claim despite numerous representations to City Hall after it was asked to identify similar facilities to replace their current bandhall, they have not heard anything, aside from the letter informing them they had just a week to move out of their bandhall - which has been their home since 1954.
And last week, the final straw came when band bosses arrived at the bandhall to find building contractors outside their premises.
Band secretary Sean Hartigan believes had he not driven past the bandhall, opposite Limerick Fire Station, it could have been destroyed altogether.
"I was driving past, and saw some bulldozers (to the back] of the building. They were pushing things over and knocking things down. Immediately I parked my car and went in, where I found the foreman of the site. Outside our back door, I found tonnes of rubble which blocked our emergency exit. He (the foreman] came over and told me they would 'look after' our building shortly. I told him they cannot knock this building because it is privately owned by the band," he explained.
According to Sean, the foreman said that he had not been told of the fact the bandroom was still occupied.
He added the band was disappointed by "the failure of Limerick city council - whether deliberate or inadvertent - to inform the site foreman that our bandroom was still occupied and contained valuable and extensive collections of sheet music, as well as instruments, stands and other property."
The bands' musical director John Doyle admitted he is fearful as to what might happen to their equipment if they do not find even a temporary home by next week.
As we went to press this Tuesday , no spokesman from the city council was available.
Ennis concerns over increase in speed limit for bypass
PAT FLYNN and TIM O'BRIEN
Tue, Aug 25, 2009
AS THE Department of Transport prepares to formally redesignate a number of the Stateâ€™s new dual-carriageways as motorways, concern has arisen in Co Clare that the Ennis bypass is not suitable for the increased speeds.
The redesignation will involve a number of new dual-carriageways across the State, which the National Roads Authority says were built to motorway standards, being redesignated in a move which will raise the speed limit for motorists from 100km/h to 120km/h.
However, locals in Co Clare claim that the Ennis dual-carriageway, where the speed limit will increase from this Friday, was originally intended to cater for speeds up to 80km/h and is not designed for or safe enough for anything higher.
Retired consultant engineer Nigel Barnes said he believed elements of the bypass were â€œfrightening and totally inappropriateâ€ to cater for speeds of 120km/h.
Mr Barnes said: â€œAt an oral hearing during the consultation process prior to work commencing on the Ennis bypass project, documentation was produced which clearly stated that the design speed limit for the route would be 50m/h [80km/h].â€
Clare County Councillors Brian Meaney (Green) and Johnny Flynn (Fine Gael), a civil engineer and former chief fire officer for Co Limerick, have already called for a full safety audit of the project to be undertaken before the redesignation of Ennis bypass goes ahead.
Cllr Meaney sought Mr Barnesâ€™s advice on planning matters relating to the project after issues were raised by locals in the Barefield area, near Ennis, about aspects of the project.
Mr Barnes, who has worked on other road projects in Ireland, said: â€œThis route was originally designed to cater for speeds of no more than 50m/h. If the Ennis bypass is upgraded to motorway and has a speed limit of 120km/h, people will get hurt.â€
He said the slip roads at the Tulla Road interchange in Ennis and at Barefield further north were too short and dangerous to cater for motorists slowing down from 120km/h.
Several collisions have already occurred at both locations.
However, a spokeswoman for the National Roads Authority said the road was fully tested for compliance with motorway design, including the interchanges, prior to a recommendation being made that they be redesignated.
She said the authority was aware of the concern locally, and the authority had arranged to reassess its designation for the Ennis bypass. However, it had been found to be within safety parameters.
Â© 2009 The Irish Times
CologneMike wrote:So when changing the signs from green to blue the short comings of the new N18 / M18 bypass come to light. That sucks! Nobody in Ennis saw this when the plans were designed?
Another stretch on the N18 (M18) at Cratloe where a row of houses are positioned along the hard shoulder (car parking included). This will also be another stumbling block to deal with, before the NRA get out their blue signs!
Tuborg wrote:If anything there are too many already between Dromoland and Barefield,with another one at Crusheen coming on stream next year. Are 2 interchanges required to service the hamlets of Barefield and Crusheen? Surely one between the two of them would've been enough?
foremanjoe wrote:Are you kidding Tuborg? Or trying to draw people out?
Crusheen and Barefield are pretty removed from each other (around 7km) and the route of the new road passes close to both townlands so why shouldn't they have access to it?
These roads have a responsibility to the places that they bypass too, you know?
They're not built solely for the benefit of intercity commuters or bank-holiday drivers.
Tuborg wrote:You're wrong actually, motorways are specifically designed for high speed, long distance travel. The old N18 and the local road network is more than adequate to cater for the needs of the local communities.
Are you seriously saying that two tiny villages only km's apart with a population of a couple of hundred people between them, deserve a dedicated junction each? How many cars are going to use these each day, 20? This is an example of parish pump planning at it's worst!
A single interchange located an equal distance between the two would have been more than enough!
Tuborg wrote:Reddy, I dont think you can argue for more frequent interchances. If anything there are too many already between Dromoland and Barefield,with another one at Crusheen coming on stream next year. Are 2 interchanges required to service the hamlets of Barefield and Crusheen? Surely one between the two of them would've been enough?
foremanjoe wrote:Why are you so stingy about interchanges anyway Tuborg?
It benefits local people and doesn't overburden the budget of a road. By that I mean that most minor roads have to have bridges or tunnels built to cross the new roads, and building sliproads for every 3rd or 4th minor road that crosses the main road should be a fairly acceptable addition to the cost of a new road.
You seem to lack a fundamental understanding of daily existence in the "hamlets" whose interchanges you would deny. Sure, the lack of an access road for Crusheen wouldn't be the end of the world, but if it enhances life in the village by 5 or 10% then it's not a bad thing.
foremanjoe wrote:That part of the road at Cratloe is not being redesignated as motorway. The M18 starts at the shannon airport interchange and continues until just after the Barefield junction. From Coonagh to the airport will still be N18, 100km/h.
foremanjoe wrote:. . . . as my idea of sustainable planning, in relation to transport infrastructure, is that it should improve the connectivity of all of the country.
reddy wrote:Ennis and environs has a population of 32,000 and is expected to grow to 50,000 in the next 15-20 years so this infrastructure is absolutely necessary to enable the proper and sustainable growth of the town.
reddy wrote:The point I made about interchanges was in defense of the town council who you said failed to see the redsignation of the dual carriageway - they did foresee this and tried their very best to have the junctions upgraded.
reddy wrote:. . . . the Western Relief Road (which has been a boon) . . . .
reddy wrote:I don't think properly designed interchanges with the requisite capacity really slow the motorway much.
foremanjoe wrote:We're obviously very different individuals Tuborg, as my idea of sustainable planning, in relation to transport infrastructure, is that it should improve the connectivity of all of the country.
And I also fail to understand your argument that the frequency of interchanges that we're talking about would affect the efficiency of the motorway, especially when placed alongside your earlier assertion that only about 20 cars a day would use the slip roads.
If a motorway can't sustain that vast volume of traffic entering/exiting at such frequent intervals then there's not much hope for it in the first place.
CologneMike wrote:This will remain so until they solve access to those houses located along the hard shoulder at Cratloe. This makes a mockery of building the Tunnel, Flyovers between Limerick and Shannon.
Tuborg wrote:Just because the M18 is going to be less busy than other motorways doesnâ€™t mean the design manual should be thrown out the window and then in true Irish style make up our own rules as we go along! Ah sure tâ€™will be grand!:rolleyes: