Underneath Dublin?

Postby Fozzie » Fri Nov 29, 2002 5:14 pm

Does anybody know how to gain access to the Phoenix Park Tunnel and, if so, would anybody be interested in joining me on an adventure?
Fozzie
Member
 
Posts: 6
Joined: Fri May 18, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Dublin

Postby Euphon » Mon Dec 02, 2002 4:11 pm

No. Go and do some work
Euphon
Member
 
Posts: 10
Joined: Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:00 pm
Location: London

Postby LOB » Mon Dec 02, 2002 4:32 pm

Seems as good a way as any to get yourself killed
LOB
Member
 
Posts: 378
Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2000 12:00 pm
Location: Dublin

Postby fjp » Mon Dec 02, 2002 5:20 pm

Well I'll presume that Fozzie meant legitimate access with the cooperation of irish rail. If this is not the case, then I believe rotten.com will show him what he'll look like after Mr. Train smacks him around a bit...
fjp
Member
 
Posts: 219
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2002 1:00 am

Postby GrahamH » Tue Dec 03, 2002 11:33 am

About those underground toilets behind
O' Connell Monument, is that what those weird black ventilation yokes are for, sticking up onto the central median? They look like two big black mushrooms, for want of a better example. How exactly were they accessed?
GrahamH
Old Master
 
Posts: 4580
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:24 am
Location: Ireland

Postby LOB » Tue Dec 03, 2002 12:24 pm

I presume they were for ventilation, preventing a build-up of gasses

the old toilets were a regular for a bomb hoax.
Remember being on O'connell street about 1985-6 when there was a controlled explosion in one of the Toilets.
LOB
Member
 
Posts: 378
Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2000 12:00 pm
Location: Dublin

Postby fjp » Tue Dec 03, 2002 7:00 pm

...a controlled explosion in one of the Toilets.


Hmm.
fjp
Member
 
Posts: 219
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2002 1:00 am

Postby LOB » Tue Dec 03, 2002 10:54 pm

Originally posted by fjp


Hmm.


involving the army bomb disposal unit :p
LOB
Member
 
Posts: 378
Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2000 12:00 pm
Location: Dublin

Postby MG » Fri Dec 06, 2002 2:53 pm

Originally posted by Fozzie
Does anybody know how to gain access to the Phoenix Park Tunnel and, if so, would anybody be interested in joining me on an adventure?


How irresponsible is this? This is a functioning railway tunnel. At the very least you could get hurt or killed, and endanger the lives of others whether they be CIE employees or your companions. Grow up.
MG
Senior Member
 
Posts: 559
Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2000 12:00 am
Location: London

Postby fjp » Fri Dec 06, 2002 2:55 pm

ouch...
fjp
Member
 
Posts: 219
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2002 1:00 am

Postby LOB » Fri Dec 06, 2002 4:32 pm

Originally posted by MG


How irresponsible is this? This is a functioning railway tunnel. At the very least you could get hurt or killed, and endanger the lives of others whether they be CIE employees or your companions. Grow up.


Ditto
LOB
Member
 
Posts: 378
Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2000 12:00 pm
Location: Dublin

Postby Fozzie » Mon Dec 09, 2002 2:08 pm

Hey, I was under the impression that the tunnel was disused. Of course I've no intention of playing chicken with choo choos.
Fozzie
Member
 
Posts: 6
Joined: Fri May 18, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Dublin

Postby colinsky » Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:29 pm

In related news....

Underworld London (Documentary)
Starting: 09:30 on Saturday 14th December. Duration: 1 hour
Showing on RTE 1.

Documentary which explores the subterranean chambers and tunnels beneath London, including the Post Office railway, bomb shelters and medieval burial chambers.
colinsky
Member
 
Posts: 37
Joined: Wed Nov 06, 2002 5:09 pm

Postby lar hammond » Sun Dec 22, 2002 11:14 pm

There was an article in the Sunday Times recently about it. So many tunnels even the bankrobbers use them apparently. The main rivers, or streams are now culverted but there's still walking space apparently. The ST bit was based on an Irish language programme on RTE.
lar hammond
Member
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Sun Dec 22, 2002 11:08 pm
Location: Dubilin

Postby Paul Clerkin » Wed Mar 12, 2003 9:47 am

Small mention in this:

Monto madam's red light home to be €3m arts centre
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=934412&issue_id=8884

"They were driven out of the Dublin 1 square mile and its network of underground tunnels in 1925 after a daring midnight raid by gardai spurred on by the Legion of Mary. Around 120 people were arrested."
User avatar
Paul Clerkin
Old Master
 
Posts: 5418
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 1999 1:00 am
Location: Monaghan

Postby ewanduffy » Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:04 pm

Originally posted by Fozzie
Does anybody know how to gain access to the Phoenix Park Tunnel and, if so, would anybody be interested in joining me on an adventure?


You can get access via the closed Cabra cement depot. Having said that, I wouldn't recommend walking through it as it is used by trains (freight and rolling stock movements to/from Inchicore).

Even though I possess an IE high visibility vest, I have never done it and would think twice about doing so. There is, however, a shorter tunnel at Glasnevin underneath Des Kelly's carpet store. As the line is currently closed for relaying, it would be safe to walk through, although still illegal to trespass.

A little bit outside Dublin, is the disused Bray Head No. 1 Tunnel (more correctly the Brabazon Tunnel), abandoned in 1876 after a derailment.
ewanduffy
Member
 
Posts: 173
Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 2:00 pm
Location: Celbridge

Postby Zap » Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:13 pm

I think its a great shame the brothel building on Corporation St can't be incorporated in some manner into the new Arts centre - there can't be too many of these former brothel buildings left in the area which made it famous/notorious.

I think it would give the new Arts Centre a closer link with the history of the area which it means to serve. I guess its always cheaper to demolish and build anew rather than integrate history into new. A shame.

I read a short history of the area in the book called The Monto produced by the local history society - its on sale from the newspaper stands on the corner of O Connell St. and Abbey St. and is quite good. I bought mine though from Cleary's pub on Amiens St. and perused it over a great pint (or two) there before quickly surveying whats left of the area.
Zap
Member
 
Posts: 139
Joined: Mon Mar 10, 2003 5:57 pm
Location: Madrid, España

Postby J. Seerski » Wed Mar 12, 2003 2:09 pm

Maybe I missed the point, but I don't think "brothels" are in the same category as tunnels. One is underworld, the other is underneath! What the hell are you on about, Zap?????
J. Seerski
 
Posts: 267
Joined: Wed Oct 16, 2002 2:48 pm
Location: Glasnevin, Dublin

Postby Zap » Wed Mar 12, 2003 2:13 pm

J. Seerski, have a look up the list a bit. I'm replying to a post by Paul Clerkin in which he deals with the Monto and its tunnels - ask him. What's wrong with digression?
Zap
Member
 
Posts: 139
Joined: Mon Mar 10, 2003 5:57 pm
Location: Madrid, España

Postby J. Seerski » Wed Mar 12, 2003 3:04 pm

Ok, Sorry!!!!!!!

I'll digress a bit... this war talk is driving me insane - thank god for non-war sites like archeire!
J. Seerski
 
Posts: 267
Joined: Wed Oct 16, 2002 2:48 pm
Location: Glasnevin, Dublin

Postby lostcarpark » Fri Mar 14, 2003 2:11 pm

There was a tunnel from O'Connell Street to an Air Raid bunker off Church Street. The bunker was only filled in a few years ago after fears of subsidance, but some of the tunnel may still exist.

James
lostcarpark
Member
 
Posts: 89
Joined: Wed Dec 18, 2002 11:58 am
Location: Dublin, Ireland

Postby Paul Clerkin » Fri Mar 14, 2003 5:50 pm

Really lostcarpark? Where was the bunker?
User avatar
Paul Clerkin
Old Master
 
Posts: 5418
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 1999 1:00 am
Location: Monaghan

Postby Paul Clerkin » Tue Mar 25, 2003 7:09 pm

Interesting article on underground Dublin
http://www.phat-traffic.com/underground.htm
User avatar
Paul Clerkin
Old Master
 
Posts: 5418
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 1999 1:00 am
Location: Monaghan

Postby bluefoam » Wed Mar 26, 2003 12:49 pm

Makes me want to start digging in my back garden, to see whats underneath. I would imagine that there are house in Stoneybatter which could potentially have access to the tunnels.
bluefoam
Member
 
Posts: 109
Joined: Wed Oct 23, 2002 1:32 pm

Postby Paul Clerkin » Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:08 pm

Further story on the Stoneybatter Strangler
http://taint.org/2002/08/23/120951a_mail.html
User avatar
Paul Clerkin
Old Master
 
Posts: 5418
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 1999 1:00 am
Location: Monaghan

PreviousNext

Return to Ireland