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Postby Tuborg » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:30 pm

Traders livelihoods “not threatened” by new market

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The livelihood of traders at the Milk Market will not be under threat when the new 6 day market opens in mid 2010. However the costs of having a stall is likely to rise, according to the market trustees.

Some traders had expressed concern that they would not be in a position to produce goods and man stalls over a six-day market. But David O’Mahony, chairman of the market trustees said every current trader will be facilitated each Saturday - their traditional day of trading - in the new market.

“This is an opportunity for them. Their livelihoods will be enhanced, not threatened. Traders ability to attend a six - day market was never in the frame,” Mr O’Mahony told the Limerick Leader.

Responding to claims that the market would be “a sophisticated machine, taking away its rough and ready character”, he said the new design is also about facilitating the wishes of customers as well as traders.

A seasonal calendar of events and stalls for the Mil Market is being prepared, which will see a diversity of new and old traders attend on different days of the week, excluding Monday when the market will be closed. “But it wont take away from the Saturday market” said Mr O’Mahony.

However he confirmed that the cost of having a stall at the market on Saturday - which is currently €20 - is likely to increase. “Prices haven’t been changed at the market since 2003, so it would be fair to assume that there would be change, but nothing outrageous,” He said.

He added that he would be interested to hear traders expectations of what the price should be. Chris O’Connor, development co-ordinator with the project, also said they have no intention of charging €100, or “anything near that” for a stall, which is the amount paid by traders in other markers in the country.

Mr O’Connor said the opening of the market would be “a national event”, and those in the food industry, including Darina Allen and Minister for Food Trevor Sargent have supported the ideals behind the new market.

It has been confirmed that the size of the new units will be in the region of 3 metres by 2.5 metres, which would increase the size of the stall, especially as vehicles would no longer be permitted in the new market.

A number of traders have opposed aspects of the €2 million redevelopment plan, which will see the market covered with a tensile roofing, designed by a specialist company in Munich, Germany.

However plans to launch a judicial review - to overturn An Bord Pleanala’s decision to grant planning - are still afoot.
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Postby CologneMike » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:32 pm

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Tuborg wrote:A number of traders have opposed aspects of the €2 million redevelopment plan, which will see the market covered with a tensile roofing, designed by a specialist company in Munich, Germany.


I wonder instead of using PVC sheets, could they nick some of that glass tensile roof from the Olympic Park and bring it with them to the Milk Market. :rolleyes:

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Postby CologneMike » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:07 pm

Bedford Row ~ Cinema Complex ~ Fordmount / Burke Kennedy Doyle Architects

In City Central Phase Two Fordmount are planning to attract leisure and food operators to Bedford Row in order to create a shopping synergy with the primarily fashion based tenant mix evident in City Central Phase One. Plans are currently in design phase for a state of the art cinema complex with a number of complimentary retail & food units at street level.

The development will be designed by Burke Kennedy Doyle Architects who are responsible for delivering several of Limerick City’s showcase developments such as Riverpoint, The Marriott Hotel and Lansdowne Hall on O’Callaghan Strand. Plans will be launched in early 2009.


I found this on Fordmount’s new web site. Long, long overdue for the city centre and recession proof on top of that. Anybody got anything new on this?

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Postby dave123 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:09 am

The corner point should be high profile and tapering up to at least 7/8 storey's at. the corner stil needs to have a gateway view onto Bedford row. I hope it aims for the same height and density as the Marriot also. I'm confident the arcitect will come up with perfect design for this project. Limerick city centre woulfd be great if they could new developments within 5 to 11 stories, like Paris.

This scheme is very exciting Ihave to say. Limerick is crying out for a real shopping experience in the city. The cinmema would give a much needed bu to the city footfall.


P.S how finished is the hanging gardens, is there any signs to finish it? There another building going ahead on a corner site. Its meant to be of over 5 stories? Could they not aim higher since Henry street ranges from 4 eo 11 stories. Corer sits should always be higher.

Can anyone give me an update on developments in the city centre? Any applications going for planning permission.
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Postby reddy » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:56 am

CologneMike wrote:I wonder instead of using PVC sheets, could they nick some of that glass tensile roof from the Olympic Park and bring it with them to the Milk Market. :rolleyes:

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This structure really is breathtaking isn't it? I hope they get it right in the milk market - it could be a really amazing addition to the city.
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Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby Tuborg » Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:45 pm

CologneMike wrote:Image

I wonder instead of using PVC sheets, could they nick some of that glass tensile roof from the Olympic Park and bring it with them to the Milk Market. :rolleyes:



The Munich Olympic Park is absolutely magnificent. I had the pleasure of visiting it a couple of years back, its hard to believe its almost 40 years old!

I felt a bit more confident about the roof when I heard the German's were going to be fabricating it. Unfortunately, with our tiny budget the chances of us getting anything near as high quality as that are pretty remote. I just hope we dont end up with something horribly cheap and inappropriate!

I wonder how much of the €2 million is actually going on the roof?
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Postby Tuborg » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:14 pm

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Bedford Row ~ Cinema Complex ~ Fordmount / Burke Kennedy Doyle Architects

In City Central Phase Two Fordmount are planning to attract leisure and food operators to Bedford Row in order to create a shopping synergy with the primarily fashion based tenant mix evident in City Central Phase One. Plans are currently in design phase for a state of the art cinema complex with a number of complimentary retail & food units at street level.

The development will be designed by Burke Kennedy Doyle Architects who are responsible for delivering several of Limerick City’s showcase developments such as Riverpoint, The Marriott Hotel and Lansdowne Hall on O’Callaghan Strand. Plans will be launched in early 2009.


I found this on Fordmount’s new web site.

Long, long overdue for the city centre and recession proof on top of that. Anybody got anything new on this?



There has been a lot of conflicting reports about this project. The plans were first announced late last Summer but the word at the moment is that any development is a good while off yet. I don’t know are they even close to submitting an application.

A pub has recently opened up in the old Nevada Smyths premises on the corner, probably on a short term lease!

As I said at the time, there is significant scope to the rear of the building, with a large area of warehouses etc stretching through to Sarsfield Street. Hopefully these will be included in any new development, it would take away some of the dead frontage that is currently plaguing that street.

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Postby cheebah » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:45 pm

Regards cinema
Maybe
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probably not

What happened to the 750,000 that was earmarked under some scheme to give Limerick an arthouse cinema. I think at one stage it was earmarked for the Theatre Royal or at least they came out and said it was.
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Postby PoxyShamrock » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:08 pm

Tuborg wrote:There has been a lot of conflicting reports about this project. The plans were first announced late last Summer but the word at the moment is that any development is a good while off yet. I don’t know are they even close to submitting an application.

A pub has recently opened up in the old Nevada Smyths premises on the corner, probably on a short term lease!

As I said at the time, there is significant scope to the rear of the building, with a large area of warehouses etc stretching through to Sarsfield Street. Hopefully these will be included in any new development, it would take away some of the dead frontage that is currently plaguing that street.

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Limerick Travel wouldn't really be any loss either...even if it just to be incorporated rather than knocked.
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Postby Tuborg » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:53 pm

PoxyShamrock wrote:Limerick Travel wouldn't really be any loss either...even if it just to be incorporated rather than knocked.


It might well be in their plans already, who knows? Its a perfectly good building though, so there wouldn't be any justification for its demolition anyway.

Its hard to believe this is the only original building left on the street, everything else has been pulled down and replaced over the last 50 years or so!:eek:

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Postby foinse » Thu May 14, 2009 2:26 pm

the travel lodge signs went up today, didn't get a chance to take a picture but will try to get one later or tomorrow if i can.
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Postby Griff » Thu May 14, 2009 7:47 pm

O Callaghans Stand is looking pretty good imo...Im looking forward to the finished results on Clancys strand.
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Postby CologneMike » Thu May 14, 2009 9:52 pm

Griff wrote:O Callaghans Stand is looking pretty good imo...Im looking forward to the finished results on Clancys strand.


Griff, that image of the railings along the roadside was exactly what I was looking for. Did anyone read a piece in last weeks Irish Times by Frank McDonald? He felt these tubular railings here have marred the promenade. What do think?

On O’Callaghan Strand, the council has created a riverside promenade protected by maritime-style railings along the Shannon’s north bank. But the design by Nicholas de Jong, who seems to have done most of Limerick’s new public spaces, is marred by tubular railings to the rear that seem quite superfluous


Full article see “Limerick changing for the better, building for the future”

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Postby tllimerick » Thu May 14, 2009 9:53 pm

foinse wrote:the travel lodge signs went up today, didn't get a chance to take a picture but will try to get one later or tomorrow if i can.



Hi All,

Yes Travelodge is moving into Parkpoint, we feel this is a great time to open a new hotel. Travelodge has done a lot of research and it’s all location location location!!

By Friday most of our signage will be up. And all going to plan doors open on June 3rd 2009.
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Postby Tuborg » Thu May 14, 2009 11:11 pm

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I wasn't aware of those railings, were they part of the original plans?

They don't seem to serve any real purpose other than adding unnecessary clutter to what is now a very pleasant space!
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Postby Griff » Fri May 15, 2009 10:24 am

I presume its the roadside railings Frank McDonald is talking about - I dont mind them and they help create a sense of security from traffic as it passes.What I would like to see is all future walkway development have a similar style that is recognised as common to the city.Hopefully also there will be a few quid set aside to keep these spaces maintained.
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Postby PoxyShamrock » Fri May 15, 2009 10:16 pm

tllimerick wrote:Hi All,

Yes Travelodge is moving into Parkpoint, we feel this is a great time to open a new hotel. Travelodge has done a lot of research and it’s all location location location!!

By Friday most of our signage will be up. And all going to plan doors open on June 3rd 2009.


Good luck with the new venture! :)
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Postby Griff » Mon May 18, 2009 8:37 am

All my young-fella wants to know is if there is going to be an Eddie Rockets diner attached to the hotel... Personally I think its a smart location for Travelodge !
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Postby Tuborg » Tue May 19, 2009 11:49 pm

This is exactly what was needed. More sprawling, out of town retail/leisure development, to the further detriment of the city centre. Planning in Limerick really has become a sick joke at this stage!:rolleyes:


Leisure centre and cinema approved at City East Plaza (Limerick Leader)

By Nick Rabbitts

LIMERICK looks set to get its third cinema after planners gave the green light to a multi-million euro development on the Tipperary Road.
The plans, lodged by developer Ralph Parkes, will see a leisure facility consisting of bowling facilities and games areas, as well as foyer and retail areas built alongside the cinema - in a move which could generate hundreds of jobs in construction and retail at Ballysimon.

Limerick County Council originally called for more information on the plan – named the 'City East Plaza' – after it deemed the development could be liable to flooding from the nearby Groody River.

The county authority also sought more information on the means of escape from the complex in case of fire. It also asked Mr Parkes to provide further information on car parking spaces and the type of retail the units will be used for. But the development has now been given the go ahead after the developers gave a transport assessment among other things.

If completed, the cinema will join multiplexes at the Crescent Shopping Centre and Dooradoyle. And plans for a cinema in the Bedford Row are still on track. Fianna Fail's city councillor Kieran O'Hanlon has said this permission once again brings up the issue of the boundary extension.

"The only concern I have is that (this is being built in] outlets outside of the city centre.

"We have a city centre strategy, and a lot of empty units in the city itself. Having outlets in the suburbs does not do a lot for the city. The county council has disregarded (the city council strategy] in my opinion. They have basically ignored the guidelines, and this emphasises the need for the boundary extension. There is room for more cinemas in Limerick, and I would welcome that but I have strong reservations about the County Council continuing their strategy which takes little or no account of the need of city to be supported as the capital of the Mid-West region," he said.

However, Cllr O'Hanlon – who serves the city area near to where the development is to happen - has welcomed the employment boost the development would bring.

He added: "In times of recession, a lot of people actually go to the cinema. I know myself growing up, there were seven or eight cinemas in the city, and it was a very favourite pastime. My own children now go to cinema very regularly."

Limerick County Council have declared the project can go ahead with 23 conditions.

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Postby dave123 » Wed May 20, 2009 4:29 am

Tuborg wrote:This is exactly what was needed. More sprawling, out of town retail/leisure development, to the further detriment of the city centre. Planning in Limerick really has become a sick joke at this stage!:rolleyes:



lol... the county councilors are so corrupt its not even a secret at this stage or was it ever.,This is absaloutely sickening. The idea of just swarming incoherent development of a seriously lopsided doughnut city will turn the city ffrom a black hole inside out and will eventually take the whole city with it.

You need to have a functioning core of a city in order to expand in a universal manner. Look at the cosmos, nothing is in existence without a core. No star, planet, galaxy, country or cooporation cannot function without a core.

Extend the boundary now. And stop this competition between the city centre and county for christ sakes. This is the reason why the Opera centre is in a mess, its the reason why the city is sprawling of retail warehousing because the city cant attract them in because of the high rates that the budget restricted city council survives on since the city is been strained by its underrbounded boundary. The public transport system is a shambles for both councils. for one city they cant even cooporate on that.


I am cursing the limerick country council. You have 3 months to end your corruption, or face the consquences. Your greed is choking the cities heart. 3 months and boy i
I'm not kidding:mad:;) Each member o the county vouncil who continues to support this division and monopooly will have their luck numbered. You sure will be reading this soon. wink wink.

You either lose all you have as ministers or you join as one city. End of story.
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Postby rumpelstiltskin » Wed May 20, 2009 4:44 am

dave123 wrote:The idea of just swarming incoherent development of a seriously lopsided doughnut city will turn the city ffrom a black hole inside out and will eventually take the whole city with it.

You need to have a functioning core of a city in order to expand in a universal manner. Look at the cosmos, nothing is in existence without a core. No star, planet, galaxy, country or cooporation cannot function without a core.


Actually, recent research suggests there's a black hole at the centre of the galaxy.
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Postby Griff » Wed May 20, 2009 7:59 am

Was it the city council that refused permission for a cinema at Coonagh ?.. building one on the Tipperary rd is crazy. Limerick is roughly T shaped , 2 ends of the T ( C'Troy and Raheen) already have cinemas. The best location for a new cinema out of town would have been Coonagh. But the real issue is that there is no cinema in the heart of the city.. So next year,people sitting at home in Castletroy will think - will i drive 6 minutes to the Tipp rd cinema or 5 minutes to the one at Superquin...hmmmmm Rio's chips on the way home maybe..
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Postby D-A-V-E » Wed May 20, 2009 12:19 pm

i dont get this at all..coonagh shopping centre..refused..ennis road retail park..refused (reasons were it would be too expensive and no plans were given for limerick to get a third cinema), same for parkway valley(although it would have been stupid for castletroy to have 2 cinemas)..and all of a sudden ballysimon road gets one? where the hell is city east plaza like?
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Postby dave123 » Wed May 20, 2009 6:29 pm

rumpelstiltskin wrote:Actually, recent research suggests there's a black hole at the centre of the galaxy.


But that blackhole has the density of billions of stars around it. Blackholes also create the actual spin and cycles of the galaxy. So my point is, you need a core for matter to start expanding. This is the nature of every city on this planet. Limerick obviously isn't when you have the county council, creating a incoherent sprawl of retail rwarehousing/commericial centres all over the edges of the city sucking the life of the core retail within the city centre.
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Postby Tuborg » Wed May 20, 2009 8:22 pm

Griff wrote:Was it the city council that refused permission for a cinema at Coonagh ?.. building one on the Tipperary rd is crazy. Limerick is roughly T shaped , 2 ends of the T ( C'Troy and Raheen) already have cinemas. The best location for a new cinema out of town would have been Coonagh. But the real issue is that there is no cinema in the heart of the city.. So next year,people sitting at home in Castletroy will think - will i drive 6 minutes to the Tipp rd cinema or 5 minutes to the one at Superquin...hmmmmm Rio's chips on the way home maybe..


The City Council refused permission for the cinema at Coonagh Cross on the basis that the city centre was a more preferable location for such a development. I have no doubt that had this area been under their jurisdiction, the current proposal would also have been turned down.

Having 3 cinema's in relatively close proximity to each other on the southside of the city is absolutely ridiculous! You could possibly make a case for a cinema on the northside but then again this would more than likely render a city centre complex unviable! I dont really think there is a market for 4 cinema's in Limerick.

This proposed project in Ballysimon will have 9 screens and is located behind the new medical centre on the Castletroy link road, just off the Garryglass roundabout.


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Permission for a leisure facility consisting of bowling facilities, cinemas, games areas and associated bars, cafe, foyer services and retail areas.

Towlerton, Ballysimon

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