ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby GrahamH » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:05 pm

Alas the paint is not beige or even pinky-beige - it really is pink!
It's exactly the colour of fresh plaster as applied to internal walls.

PINK :eek:
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby shadow » Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:01 pm

As this is a material change of the facade it would require planning permission. If it does not have planning permission it is an illegal development. You can join the rest of the dots.......
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby d_d_dallas » Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:30 pm

OMG - So you're sure it's been painted... not just cleaned???

Words defy me
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby phil » Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:39 pm

d_d_dallas wrote:OMG - So you're sure it's been painted... not just cleaned???

Words defy me


Definitely. You can see where some of the paint has splashed in one of Graham's first pictures. I happened to be passing it the other day and had a look. It seems to definitely be paint.
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby tommyt » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:19 am

ESB to announce design competition to replace HQ?

http://www.etenders.gov.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=MAR116146

TITLE ATTRIBUTED TO THE CONTRACT BY THE CONTRACTING ENTITY: Design Contest
(Architectural).
ESB intends to publish an Design Contest (Architectural) notice in the
coming days relating to the development of a key site of approximately 1
hectare (2.5 acres) in the city centre of Dublin which is currently
occupied by the existing ESB Headquarters.
Interested parties should monitor the Official Journal of the European
Union ( see http://ted.europa.eu ) and Irish Government Public Sector
Procurement opportunities portal (http://www.etenders.gov.ie for this design
contest only), over the coming days to ensure that they do not miss this
opportunity.
CPV: 71000000.
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby rumpelstiltskin » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:53 pm

Surely, if there was ever a case for detailed reconstruction of what was there before, this is it!
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby johnglas » Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:46 pm

I'm with paulC here; paint it vermilion until it's replaced or at least refaced. Actually, the whole building is a metaphor for the ESB - absolutely no sense of place or townscape whatsoever; the number of major Irish towns blighted by the ugliest transmission poles in Western Europe constantly amazes me. What has the ESB been doing for the last 15 years?
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby missarchi » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:57 pm

can someone post all the info... the site next door already has plans
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby GrahamH » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:08 pm

Funny this is raised. Believe it or not, I heard from inside the ESB only the other day that consultants were employed to make the building more muted in its environment. The above paint job is the result of their considered efforts. The mind boggles.
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby Morlan » Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:54 am

tommyt wrote:ESB to announce design competition to replace HQ?


Haha, April Fools', very funny.
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby aj » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:21 am

it would appear not!!!!

ESB competition for world-class redesign of HQ


THE ESB intends to use the opportunity provided by the redevelopment of its head office in Fitzwilliam Street, Dublin, which it announced last week, to create a “world-class example of sustainable and innovative headquarters”.

According to documentation issued last Friday by the ESB, one of the key criteria for a design contest for the new complex will be “the participants’ proposals for a solution to the aspect of the Lower Fitzwilliam Street facade”.

This facade was the most controversial element of the existing headquarters built in 1970 – following an earlier architectural competition won by the late Arthur Gibney and Sam Stephenson – because it meant demolishing 16 Georgian houses.

At the time, conservationists were appalled that Dublin’s longest Georgian facade, from Mount Street to Leeson Street, was to be broken by a modern building fronted by precast concrete window panels and set on a podium.

The ESB brought in Sir John Summerson, a leading English architectural historian, to give his opinion on the merit of the houses to be demolished.

Notoriously, he condemned them as “simply one damned house after another”.

Ten years ago, the ESB gave serious consideration to a plan by Sam Stephenson that would have involved refronting the office block with a Georgian facade as a Millennium project.

However, this proposal was deemed to be problematic due to the floor levels.

In the latest competition, architects are being told to assume that all existing buildings – except protected structures, including No 12 Lower Fitzwilliam Street – “will be demolished to allow the entire site to become available for redevelopment”.

Participants who are shortlisted following the initial qualification stage will be requested to present detailed design proposals for an exemplar sustainable headquarters in the centre of Dublin.

It will comprise a floor area of between 35,000 and 45,000sq metres.

“The proposed designs should demonstrate respect for the surrounding Georgian streetscape and protected structures,” states the contest documentation.

Three winning designs are to be selected.

The competition, which is being held independently of the Royal Institute of the Architects of Ireland (RIAI), is to be judged by a panel headed by ESB chairman Lochlann Quinn.

It will also include John Redmond, the company secretary and head of corporate affairs.

Others on the jury are Joe Maher, retired ESB director and former chief financial officer; Prof Owen Lewis, an architect and engineer who now heads Sustainable Energy Ireland; and an “international architect/urban designer” yet to be appointed.

The jury’s assessment of submissions will be assisted by a technical panel.

The weightings to be given to different aspects of each submission are 40 per cent for “commerciality and buildability”, including value for money; 40 per cent for “design and aesthetic qualities”; and 20 per cent for “compatibility . . . with [the] receiving environment”.

The top three competition entries will each be awarded a prize of €30,000, and the final decision on the award of “any follow-up contract” is be made by the ESB’s board on the recommendation of the jury.

This will follow negotiations with the shortlisted entrants.

This article appears in the print edition of the Irish Times
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby aj » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:36 am

if ever there was a case for pastiche then this is it... surely the entire fitzwilliam street facade must be reinstated or else we risk repeating the orginal mistake!
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby reddy » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:50 am

This is gonna be a seriously interesting decision actually. It'll be very interesing to see how most of the entrants approach it too.
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby Smithfield Resi » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:07 pm

I propose it be named "Apology House"
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby missarchi » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:10 pm

I have already seen some mock ups floating around its time to cul green:D
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby jdivision » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:12 pm

aj wrote:if ever there was a case for pastiche then this is it... surely the entire fitzwilliam street facade must be reinstated or else we risk repeating the orginal mistake!


Unless they go for a Henrietta Street-style modern interpretation!
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby aj » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:51 pm

jdivision wrote:Unless they go for a Henrietta Street-style modern interpretation!


dont even get me started about the conservation of Dublins Most importatn set piece!
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby Paul Clerkin » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:22 pm

Architects are being told to assume that all the existing buildings, except the protected structures will be demolished to make way for the redevelopment. The competition will be held by the Royal Institute of the Architects of Ireland and will be judged by a panel headed by ESB Chairman Lochlann Quinn.
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby jdivision » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:51 am

Paul Clerkin wrote:Architects are being told to assume that all the existing buildings, except the protected structures will be demolished to make way for the redevelopment.

Which is precisely the opposite of what they were telling the media three weeks ago!
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby cajual » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:54 pm

Paul Clerkin wrote:Architects are being told to assume that all the existing buildings, except the protected structures will be demolished to make way for the redevelopment. The competition will be held by the Royal Institute of the Architects of Ireland and will be judged by a panel headed by ESB Chairman Lochlann Quinn.


It's not an RIAI competition...
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby Service charge » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:20 pm

Some able minded person should pull the original georgian plans, redraw them and submit it!!!
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby gunter » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:09 pm

. . . and send a servant around with a bill for five guineas!
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby GregF » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:45 pm

A glass neon tower of 40 storeys or more with a pylon or windmill on the roof would be very apt here. Blacam Meagher & Co are no doubt drawing up the plans.
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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby ratsam » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:53 pm

No doubt with a project of this size there will be a tough pre-qualification stage. Probably eliminate 80-90% of the firms in the country with it...! ;):mad: I'd be fairly confident from reading the above that there will be a big entry from overseas big firm architects.... the likes of Rogers, Fosters and maybe if we where lucky enough Herzog and De Meuron...! It'd be nice to see a HDM building built in Ireland.

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Re: ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street

Postby lostexpectation » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:52 pm

please when and where can we round up all of the people responsible for the current hq and throw rotten fruit at them
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