Old pictures of Dublin

Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby GregF » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:41 am

Great photographs!......It looked a great old city despite the poverty.
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Morlan » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:21 am

Glad you all enoyed the pics.

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I don´t know how you did it but great work!

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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby ctesiphon » Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:31 pm

newgrange wrote:Morgan place it is.


Gah! Missed my chance for glory.

I was looking this up in work yesterday, in the OSI Dublin Street Guide (7th Ed.). I figured it was six letters, thought the first was probably M, and then searched the index for Mangan Place. There's none, but a listing for Morgan Place did catch my eye. It has a grid reference but didn't appear to be on the map, which is odd, given that such streets usually have a number of they're too small to be titled. It's not like the OSI to make such a mistake, but I thought nothing more of it. And then this!

Looking again, the street is mentioned, but the name is printed on a red background so is barely visible.

Anyway, nice work, all.
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby alonso » Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:39 pm

so it's now the entrance to the 4 courts and car park. Wonder does it still have a street sign? Live maps would suggest not
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby tommyt » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:02 pm

alonso wrote:so it's now the entrance to the 4 courts and car park. Wonder does it still have a street sign? Live maps would suggest not


Just cycled past at lunchtime- the whole footprint of the terrace to the quays is indeed obliterated by Aras Ui Dhailigh. Another one of the city's charming and subtle late twentieth century reimaginings of working with brick.
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby hutton » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:07 pm

tommyt wrote:Just cycled past at lunchtime- the whole footprint of the terrace to the quays is indeed obliterated by Aras Ui Dhailigh. Another one of the city's charming and subtle late twentieth century reimaginings of working with brick.


Lol :D

Well spotted, Devin.
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Devin » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:45 pm

Morlan wrote:Glad you all enoyed the pics.



I don´t know how you did it but great work!

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Thanks Morlan. Can't make out what it is but it looks apetising :-)

The ground floor arcading helped identify it.

Ctesiphon, Miriam Place wasn't too far off!

Fair play to hutton too for narrowing down the location by electoral jurisdiction and getting the year (1948)!

Nother pic here of the buildings. Sorry about the quality. It's a photograph of a picture hanging in the reception of the Central Hotel, Exchequer Street:

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And ta Morlan for all the pics. The slightly different views of old photos we're familiar with are great.
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby lonkey » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:18 am

this is a sketch of the wall of signs

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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby GregF » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:29 pm

Those old pics of the quays shows that the buildings that graced the riverfront were quite substantial, particularly in the image of the buildings that have 4 - 5 storeys beside the Four Courts. Shows how much the quays had deteriorated since old times!
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby GrahamH » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:35 pm

Some great stuff here - thanks for the effort Morlan ;)

What's always interesting about photographs from the 1940s and 1950s is seeing a city on the cusp of change; the last gasp of the old regime before the new world of modernity is ushered in. The earlier alterations are often already apparent - the city awkwardly trying to modernise itself through a veneer of neon signage, new shopfronts and motorised traffic, but all layered over the existing substructure of a decaying classical buildng stock which seemed omnipresent - just 'there' in the background, but rarely acknowledged and used merely as a support structure for better things.

What I always find a constant in these pictures too - whether self-generated or not is hard to define - is the sense of a complete lack of a ownership amongst the public over their city. They neither knew what they had, why they had it, or saw any reason to get involved in its improvement, promotion or protection. All as if it was beyond their control, as if cities were far too unweildy machines to even attempt to tame, if indeed even worthy of it in the first place. One thing is certain though - poverty in some shape or form lurks beneath every last photograph. It's a shame that when money did arrive ten, twenty years later, it was so sorely misdirected.


This picture of the Four Courts is most interesting. The replacement granite to the front of the east wing graphically displays the extent to which the building was blasted during the Civil War. I'd never seen it so clearly before.

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Indeed the extent to which many of our major public buidings looked like a collection of patchwork quilts for much of the 20th century is something that is probably under-acknowledged.


This scene of the Grafton Street end of Nassau Street is a gem. Jammet's was considered one of Dublin's better restaurants in the mid 20th century.

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Such a shame this projecting buildng has now lost its significance through crude alterations and its positioning in the midst of a tawdry jumble of high street outlets. Interesting also to note the pavement width of the reticent 1940s is still in place for the heaving crowds of today...

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All of the shops appear to have protective grilles over their windows. Must have been early morning, or perhaps a Sunday.

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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby alonso » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:40 pm

graham is that nassau st pic corresponding to the Sound Cellar and Subway stretch? Is Jammets now the Porterhouse, formerly Judge Roy Beans, with the 1st floor window now the Library bar of Lillies - must remember to look upwards next time i'm there
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby GrahamH » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:46 pm

Yep alonso. What a change eh?!

For some reason that area is probably the most chaotic part of the entire city centre. Nobody has a clue what anything looks like. You're bombarded with hoards of pedestrians, queues into Subway, brash shopfronts, an obstacle course of utility boxes and taxi rank-cum-loading bay, and a preposterously narrow footpath to top it all off. It's every man for himself - just getting out of it is an achievement, never mind getting a glimpse of its building stock!
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby alonso » Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:50 pm

yeh and the arcaded block on the Dawson st corner just adds to it. Still n all, there's a true Dublin institution in amongst the random mess - the Sound Cellar, the greatest little record shop in the city - down that narrow corridor to the right of Subway - always has a few tickets for the sold out shows if you were known to the fine character and proprietor Tommy Tighe. There's much commentary here, especially in recent times, about old fashioned retail in the city, and despite the niche nature of this particular shop, i think it represents something that is encreasinly being lost. Oddities like prices always being rounded up to the pound/euro, none of this 12.99 nonsense, never getting a receipt coz you were never questioned when bringing a scratched cd or Lp back and way before the tax, you always got a brown paper bag rather than plastic . A great place and I hope it's surviving well in this download age. Although we all abhor street clutter, Nassau street without the Sound Cellar tickets and gigs listings board wouldn't be the same

(some of ye are nostalgic for fine terraces, some for street lighting, others for statues, great buildings, simple forms and epic architecture. I'm nostalgic for the place I bought my first punk rock records and tickets for Slayer in the SFX - different strokes eh?)
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby tommyt » Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:22 am

Very interesting little analysis, never knew this little enclave was also part of the exchq/wicklow area of what I explain to visitors as the 'victorian neo-hip' core of the city. Alonso is dead right about the sound cellar being a socio-historical gem Apart from the proprietor beign a dyed in the wool Shamrock Rovers ne'er do well ( for posters on here only familiar with the SKY TV version of this sporting code, it's quite distinct from the inter- parish brawling more popular on this island. you may be surprised itp know in real life actual soccer teams do play against one another in this city-not just on the telly).
As for the SFX, we should have a general thread for the city's lost live music venues/ the list would be endless... I will start it myself soon but I could only start it from c.1985...
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Rory W » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:11 am

Interesting how John Morton Jeweller (last shop on the right - the one with the three ladies looking in the window - how times change eh) managed to survive intact so long having only closed in 2005 - the shopfront virtually the same as pictured here
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby tomk » Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:08 pm

enjoyed seeing those vintage photos too. Just looking at that image of Nassau St really brought it home that you often miss out on the fantastic architecture out there above the ground floor of buildings. As the other poster said, you are so busy trying to watch your footing, not being knocked down by cyclists etc that you miss out on some gems.

Stumbled across a site recently that has a lot of photos of Dublin from late 1980's/early 90s. While not of the same vintage as the ones above, it brought back some memories of how the Dublin I grew up in looked like. The pics are dominated by buses which is the purpose of the website gallery so a lot of the architecture/streetscapes are obscured but some of you may enjoy this more recent trip down memory lane. If this has been submitted elsewhere, my apologies. PS hope the owner of this website doesn't mind my opening it up to an additional audience. link below.

http://www.wheelingintheyears.com/index.html
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby ctesiphon » Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:36 pm

tomk wrote:not being knocked down by cyclists etc

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On this stretch of Nassau Street? Really? On the footpath or on the road?
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Paul Clerkin » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:54 pm

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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby kinsella » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:50 pm

Did the Liffey drain away in 1884? It's been sucked out of the O'Connell Street illustration :D
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Paul Clerkin » Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:39 pm

Old Carlisle Bridge was humpbacked so it just looks like it
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby djasmith » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:37 am

Date taken: April 1952
Photographer: Thomas Mcavoy[/B]


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Does anybody know where this photo is taken?? The houses look rather like the council houses in Marino and Inchicore.... but only one fireplace per house? Is that not rather strange?? Considering they appear to be the larger 3 bedroom houses, one would expect to find 8 chimney pots in each of those stacks, not 2....
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Rory W » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:04 pm

That's a great image of Wood Quay - always wondered what it looked like before it got swept away, and now I know it was a lot more interesting than what's there now!
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby daithidaithi » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:23 pm

Tara Street and Butt Bridge, the second and third are taken from where Apollo house is now I think, anymore would be great
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