Old pictures of Dublin

Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Paul Clerkin » Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:55 pm

where was this?

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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby ctesiphon » Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:59 pm

That one's been doing my head in too. The homepage says 'A street in the red-light district where many brothels reside', so that narrows it a bit, but equally, it might all be gone. That's certainly one impressively regimented terrace.
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Paul Clerkin » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:02 pm

is this denmark street? with the junction going down to rutland place?

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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby newgrange » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:07 pm

Paul Clerkin wrote:where was this?

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The houses in the distance look like Foley Street used to.
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Paul Clerkin » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:08 pm

ctesiphon wrote:That one's been doing my head in too. The homepage says 'A street in the red-light district where many brothels reside', so that narrows it a bit, but equally, it might all be gone. That's certainly one impressively regimented terrace.


could be summerhill - which I've only seen photos of the back off prior to demolition
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Paul Clerkin » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:10 pm

certainly the right area for the description newgrange
personally the juvenile in me always like the fact that beaver street and beaver close was in the monto
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby newgrange » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:21 pm

A later picture of the same spot, from Terry Fagan's 'Monto - Madams, Murder and Black Coddle'
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby tommyt » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:28 pm

newgrange wrote:A later picture of the same spot, from Terry Fagan's 'Monto - Madams, Murder and Black Coddle'


A great book-highly recommended- I got my copy in the barbers under the railway arch on Amiens st of all places.

For the record I do have a photo of myself and a group of friends tittering and pointing at the street sign for beaver street from a while back:o. it was still there up until 3/4 years ago on a pebble dashed wall before those new apartments were built on site
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Paul Clerkin » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:33 pm

This is described as Foley Street - would this be the back of that terrace?
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Paul Clerkin » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:39 pm

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"Mrs Fagan looks out her window she was the tenent to leave Foley Street in the 1980s"
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby newgrange » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:42 pm

Yes. It's where the park is now.
There's another picture from more or less the same spot in the North Inner City Folklore Project's 1999 calendar.
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby newgrange » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:47 pm

Another shot from the same calendar.
Foley Street.
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby hutton » Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:26 pm

Paul Clerkin wrote:is this denmark street? with the junction going down to rutland place?

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I don't think its Rutland Place, Paul - it's much narrower than this shot... It is North Central Dublin though, and the year is 1948 - the election posters for Clann na Poblachta and Fine Gael give candidates names... Maybe Monto? :cool:
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby tommyt » Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:55 pm

hutton wrote:I don't think its Rutland Place, Paul - it's much narrower than this shot... It is North Central Dublin though, and the year is 1948 - the election posters for Clann na Poblachta and Fine Gael give candidates names... Maybe Monto? :cool:



Could it be the junction of Denmark/Hill st?. If it is there is a single storey corner shop adjoining that gable on site now. I am a bit thrown by the adjoining doorways though... might cycle that way tonight out of curiosity
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Paul Clerkin » Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:23 pm

Nope, building in photo has extra storey

it's going to drive me mental - its definitely "------ place" on the sign - http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c?q=8d3247e5df5775e5_large

That doorway arrangement is pretty distinctive too
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Devin » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:03 pm

Yeah nothing in the Gardiner or Fitzwillian estate is 5 storeys. It's more like a late-period Wide Streets Comms. building, like the group on Dame St between Crow Street and Temple Lane ... no 'places' around there though .. Arrgh!
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby hutton » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:18 pm

Devin wrote:Yeah nothing in the Gardiner or Fitzwillian estate is 5 storeys. It's more like a late-period Wide Streets Comms. building, like the group on Dame St between Crow Street and Temple Lane ... no 'places' around there though .. Arrgh!


But it can't be over there anyway - it' s got to be within the north central constituency...
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Paul Clerkin » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:35 pm

Yeah Hutton, that's where I'm looking - scanning the map for possible locations
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Devin » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:45 pm

Think I've got it!! There were a pair of such 5-storey houses beside the Four Courts, and with ads on the gable. And when you look on the old maps, right enough there's a 'place' there. And it's within the north inner city hutton. Got to be it, hasn't it?


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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby newgrange » Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:23 pm

And it's got adverts on the gable in your second picture.
Of course the traffic went the other way in those days, which means the gable would have been seen.
Good work Moneypenny, Morgan place it is.
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby Paul Clerkin » Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:31 pm

Nice work....
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby tommyt » Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:44 pm

Paul Clerkin wrote:Nice work....
Quick scooch over the 1911 census reveals at least 3 hotels on this stretch of Kings Inns quay possibly explaining the doorway configuration? The two houses on listed Morgan place contained 11 seperate houeholds. Is this the present day Aras Ui Dhailigh site or the extension buildings of the Four Courts complex?
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby arachne » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:28 pm

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This one shows a picture of the building (I think it was a gospel hall) which stood on the site of the present Davenport Hotel, which retains its front façade. It's surprising difficult to find pictures of it.
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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

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Re: Old pictures of Dublin

Postby lonkey » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:32 am

brilliant thread ,most enjoyable, does anybody have pictures of

30 LOWER ORMOND QUAY & 23 & 24 GREAT STRAND ST.
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