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Dun Laoghaire council slammed over development plan on restricted land
Dun Laoghaire baths: over 1,000 submissions have been received in relation to the two proposed developments
COUNCIL officials in charge of the controversial redevelopment plans for the Dun Laoghaire Baths in south Dublin have been accused of wasting public money on the project before securing guarantees that substantial development is even possible.
It has been claimed that any redevelopment at the seafront area in Dun Laoghaire could run into problems as there are significant "restrictions" attached to leases covering the area.
The revelation has caused disquiet amongst local politicians who claim management at Dun Laoghaire Rathdown County Council have spent thousands of euro of tax payers' money on both consultancy fees and the marketing of two proposed developments for the seafront area.
Both of these schemes â€“ which involve a major rejuvenation of the seafront area and the now defunct public baths â€“ are in public consultation phase. Plans for a major development on the coastline sparked local objections which reached fever pitch in 2005 with public marches and demonstrations.
The leases on the shoreline are held by the Department of the Marine, which entered into discussions with council officials to amend the paperwork in 2001, to pave the way for future works.
However, the Sunday Tribune has learned that these discussions were never finalised and restrictions on development remain in place.
Dun Laoghaire Rathdown County Council confirmed it took part in "negotiations with the relevant government departments but the negotiations were not concluded".
The council also confirmed that the two schemes proposed for the seafront now undergoing public consultation "have not been examined in light of these old leases as no decision has been made by the council at this stage to proceed with any scheme".
However, it would not shed light on the nature of the restrictions and said it was not possible to estimate the money spent on planning and promoting the two schemes.
"The council is not in a position to give an estimate as work is ongoing and final invoices have not been submitted," said Bernie Gilligan, senior executive officer at the economic development and planning department. However, while confirming that the "restrictions" on the leases have not yet been addressed despite discussions with government seven years ago, Gilligan said: "We are confident that any difficulties associated with these restrictions can be overcome".
Over 1,000 submissions have been received in relation to the two proposed developments and a report on the consultation process is expected by the end of the year. At that stage, the council's elected members will decide the future of the project. However, the council's spending public money on producing the concepts before ensuring the lease restrictions were amended has proved controversial.
"I think it's a bad way to handle public money and people have told the council they don't want this fantastic 'Disneyfication' of the sea front," said local Green councillor Gene Feighery.
Dun Laoghaire Rathdown County Council spent a staggering â‚¬23.7m on "consultancy and professional fees" last year, it has emerged.
No comment was available from the council on the figure, which represents almost 10 per cent of its total expenditure of â‚¬240m for 2007.
The money paid on consultancy and professional fees grew more than five-fold from the 2006 figure of â‚¬4.5m.
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Anyone ever heard much of the Dublin underground planned and ready to start construction in 1914,.. until franz ferdinand took a bullet. Wrong thread but.....Rory W wrote:I've never heard that one before
Bago wrote:Anyone ever heard much of the Dublin underground planned and ready to start construction in 1914,.. until franz ferdinand took a bullet. Wrong thread but.....
edit, it wasn't planned and ready... but planned!
Rory W wrote:I've never heard that one before
However, the Sandycove and Glasthule Residents' Association circulated a newsletter at last night's county council meeting, outlining their objections to the plans. The statement raised questions about the feasibility of creating a sand beach which could be washed away and said that development on the seashore would devastate the ecosystem.
"It is not relevant to the aspirations of the community," the statement read. "There is no way to realise financially or practically the project."
A committee of Dun Laoghaire Rathdown County Council has recommended the existing bath building be extended and revamped to provide a public swimming pool.
The move comes despite county manager Owen Keegan warning that such a facility, which would include outdoor swimming pool and the possibility of an indoor facility, was "unlikely to attract significant patronage and at best will operate for a very limited season".
An analysis of submissions found that most people favoured neither one proposal nor the other, which consultants said was to be expected.