Eglinton Street Tower, Cork

[rebel_city]

I checked my post last night and I got a fancy looking letter also. The letter was indeed a stylish affair! I'm looking forward to getting the invite next, will have to make a trip down to Cork to check it out. The gardens so sound impressive, wonder what the price range the apts will be going for though!

[Leesider]

That spire they have put on top looks crap.....just like a big flag pole!!

[goldiefish]

Philistine...

[Leesider]

Philistine...

you like??:eek:

[PTB]

Is that honestly the spire? This is the biggest disappointment since discovering Santa wasn't real.

[green_jesus]

That can't be it can it? That toothpick spire looks nothing like the original designs...

Maybe it's just the first piece of it or the support for the real one. (Hopefully):confused:

[who_me]

That can't be it can it? That toothpick spire looks nothing like the original designs...

Maybe it's just the first piece of it or the support for the real one. (Hopefully):confused:

Doubt it, looks like the final thing. It is tiny - in comparison with the 17m barge pole being put up on the top of the Ascon development (Government buildings on O'Sullivan's Quay).

[opus]

The prices were announced in Saturday's Examiner according to the Property Pin website, range is from €375k for a one-bed to €2m for a large penthouse.

Examiner story is here.

[johnglas]

Hi guys! Just back from my (first-ever) visit to your fair city. Still trying to absorb it all, but I did like the new tower and the developments round about. I think they lost their nerve on thr fin(i)al flourish, but it is elegant and I'm not a particular fan of high-rise for its own sake.
My general impression was of a fascinating small city that has been allowed to crumble for far too long. I think you need to sack everyone in the 'planning' department (if there is one) and get people in place who care deeply about the city and how it looks. A 10-year plan would allow this place to flourish as it deserves to. And, whisper it, I think it is more architecturally varied and interesting than Dublin and it just oozes character.

[Leesider]

Just saw the lights were turned on......never knew we were living in Gotham!

[who_me]

Ha! I know what you mean Leesider, thought it was cooool. (I know the lighting was probably a bit kitsch, but I still like it).

The roof colour changes over time, and the spire lighting is animated. Guess it was a "dry" run for the official launch?

[Hafez]

Might be a good oppurtunity to put a starbucks in there seeing as there are no others in the city.

[GregF]

I saw this on the news tonight and I thought that it didn't really look that attractive. Kinda looks similar to the 'tower' that they are going to build at the Point in Dublin.

Both look like rudimentary towers really, nothing great. A first for Ireland, but old hat for the rest of the world!

[shanekeane]

Might be a good oppurtunity to put a starbucks in there seeing as there are no others in the city.

that about sums up the attitude to architecture on this forum

[demolition man]

Why do people have to put the Elysian down all the time?To me,while there may be some flaws such as the white cylindrical tower piece and the dank panelling on the west side, is still a welcome addition to the city's skyline.

Considering the bland tripe being built in the dublin docklands and being proposed in kennedy quay we should be appreciating this development and be encouraging new developments to show similar uniqueness. I don't know how some people get off on critiscising the Elysian when there is nothing else bettering it in terms of design (that is on a similar scale) in the city or even in the entire country.

[kite]

Why do people have to put the Elysian down all the time?To me,while there may be some flaws such as the white cylindrical tower piece and the dank panelling on the west side, is still a welcome addition to the city's skyline.

Considering the bland tripe being built in the dublin docklands and being proposed in kennedy quay we should be appreciating this development and be encouraging new developments to show similar uniqueness. I don't know how some people get off on critiscising the Elysian when there is nothing else bettering it in terms of design (that is on a similar scale) in the city or even in the entire country.

It's the best of a bad lot eh?
I accept the Elysian as an everyday, run of the mill buildind design. It should never have been put out there as the "best of Irish".
It is a nice block of apartments with shops underneath, nothing more, nothing less.

[Yossarian]

I wonder will they get the footfall on those street fronts? the link is fairly offputting to pedestrians... i guess its a good measure for future cork-spansion towards the docklands, but hardly a social street...

[jungle]

If the Docklands is to be integrated into the city centre, there will be a lot of work needed on making the streets in between more pedestrian friendly. Clontarf St and Eglinton St don't need to be 3 lane, so 2 lane with better footpaths will do. Lapp's Quay (the bit outside Connolly Hall, not outside the Clarion) needs upgrading with most of the parking removed. Albert Quay also needs a good bit of work done; possibly a lane could bre removed, but more important would be cleaning up the quayside area. I'm not sure much could be done about Albert St (which accounts for most of the retail space in the Elysian); it's a very important traffic artery and there isn't much spare space going around.

[Pug]

i agree with you, its just that given current government fear of spending (although they still seem to be going ahead with a 3.7 billion metro in Dublin0, we will be doing well to get the docklands up and running at all - arent the government trying to get funds from the EU and be allowed break the restrictions on borrowing rule?

No sign yet of a decision on the bridge to go from over by Pairc Ui Chaoimh to the skew bridge, was due months ago

[jungle]

The Dublin Metro is actually PPP, so it doesn't cost the DoF any money in the short term. The whole PPP scheme is a bit of a scam though, because it's a way of borrowing without it appearing on the balance sheet. And we're all seeing what keeping liabilities of your balance sheet can do at the moment.

[Angry Rebel]

Reducing road space for traffic is a retrograde step IMHO. It's very difficult to increase that space once you've done it and we have no idea how bad traffic will be once the Docklands is under construction and when it's finished. Need all the roadspace we can get to be honest.

That said, you're dead right about upgrading the pedestrian links in those (and other areas). Just think a way needs to be found without creating traffic problems. e.g. On Blackrock Rd outside Tellengana House, the Council have just put in a bus shelter. Good move, obviously. However, they also doubled the size of the footpath at the same time (to no obvious benefit) which means buses can't actually pull in anymore and will block the road every time they stop.

[jungle]

You can't improve the pedestrian links without taking up some space from the road. Lapp's Quay should be fairly uncontroversial as nobody uses it as a through road anyway.

If you look at Clontarf St, nobody uses the right hand lane. It would end up with you doing circuits of Parnell Place and Lower Oliver Plunkett St - great for kerb crawlers, but not that useful for the vast majority of citizens. Having two lanes on Clontarf St, one for turning left at the end and one for turning right would suffice. You've also got to take into account that there are only two lanes leading into it from Clontarf Bridge (the rightmost lane is for Merchant's Quay traffic only), so it will never require the volume provided by three lanes. Finally, if you think where traffic is coming from and going to,

Eglinton St may be a different issue with the City Hall car park and the entrance to the Elysian car park in addition to standard traffic flows. But, it's not as critical as the others anyway.

To be honest, we need to get away from the amount of parking space and road space given over to cars in Cork city centre. After the building of the South Ring, it should have become more about a space for people to live, work and socialise in and less about getting cars through. The only cars that need to drive through the city centre are ones that have it as their destination or that are travelling from the Northside to the Southside of the city and vice versa.

[Pug]

i was just in the elysian for a look, the 1 beds are a bit cramped but the others are fabulous - prob still a little pricey but the show apartments are seriously good especially the dual aspect for 545k and ones in the tower for 1.35m - if you have that kind of money why not

[browser]

i was just in the elysian for a look, the 1 beds are a bit cramped but the others are fabulous - prob still a little pricey but the show apartments are seriously good especially the dual aspect for 545k and ones in the tower for 1.35m - if you have that kind of money why not

Which of the two are you shelling out for Pugmeister me old china? Or are you buying one of each.

[Pug]

obviously i bought one of each - it was when i heard that there was good storage space in the basement as well if you wanted it for your apartment, but the storage would also cost 10,000, i was a bit miffed

they are finished really really well, surround sound speakers wired in the ceiling, mood lighting and all that stuff

The kitchen designed by Porsche is unbelievable, in both looks and cost (€149k - for a kitchen!)

the 545k ones are really fab to be fair