Dance vs. Architecture
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Dance vs. Architecture
Hello,
I'm currently working on my own project for the summer before I head back to 2nd year in Architecture. (Mainly to strengthen my design process, develop a particular style and work with more software programs such as Rhino) My background is dance, prior to architecture, and always dreamt of combining these two passions. I devised my own project which is comprised of designing a functional structure that is utilized for a museum in honor of Loie Fuller. Fuller was a pioneer to modern dance, and was one of the many artist that evoked Art Nouveau. (Art Nouveau is probably one of my favourite art movements.... Gaudi has become my main inspiration lately).
Loie Fuller was draped in volominous silk fabric when dancing. She was the first individual to innovate lighting on stage as well. When she danced she metaphorized into different objects such as clouds, serpents, orchids, etc... as the color changed upon her white sheets of fabric.
My goal is to capture the essence of Loie Fuller and Art Nouveau while establishing my own unique style. I'm afraid I might take it too literally though, since I'm captivated by the movement of the silk material and lighting.
If you have any suggestions, feel free!
Thanks
I'm currently working on my own project for the summer before I head back to 2nd year in Architecture. (Mainly to strengthen my design process, develop a particular style and work with more software programs such as Rhino) My background is dance, prior to architecture, and always dreamt of combining these two passions. I devised my own project which is comprised of designing a functional structure that is utilized for a museum in honor of Loie Fuller. Fuller was a pioneer to modern dance, and was one of the many artist that evoked Art Nouveau. (Art Nouveau is probably one of my favourite art movements.... Gaudi has become my main inspiration lately).
Loie Fuller was draped in volominous silk fabric when dancing. She was the first individual to innovate lighting on stage as well. When she danced she metaphorized into different objects such as clouds, serpents, orchids, etc... as the color changed upon her white sheets of fabric.
My goal is to capture the essence of Loie Fuller and Art Nouveau while establishing my own unique style. I'm afraid I might take it too literally though, since I'm captivated by the movement of the silk material and lighting.
If you have any suggestions, feel free!
Thanks
- Asharch22
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Re: Dance vs. Architecture
i'm no rhino head but you have 2 issues...
creating the moment and somehow transferring that to a form liner or tile system or some excellent freestyle sheet metal worker to make a form liner... I think you will do better with a wings/feather/blackhole/or dress down approach with a metal sculpture outside or designing Loie Fuller lights for inside your simple building... you have set your self one hell of a task.. you might want to work inside our or outside in
but I think the clear flat rectangle glass box approach with a fabric or plastic dress in motion light on the inside might be a winner for you kiss...
I would aim for either 1 street elevation 2-4 floors above ground only or a pavilion that has its entry cafe on ground floor with black floors and the rest underground... in a park or something???
hope that helps?
creating the moment and somehow transferring that to a form liner or tile system or some excellent freestyle sheet metal worker to make a form liner... I think you will do better with a wings/feather/blackhole/or dress down approach with a metal sculpture outside or designing Loie Fuller lights for inside your simple building... you have set your self one hell of a task.. you might want to work inside our or outside in
but I think the clear flat rectangle glass box approach with a fabric or plastic dress in motion light on the inside might be a winner for you kiss...
I would aim for either 1 street elevation 2-4 floors above ground only or a pavilion that has its entry cafe on ground floor with black floors and the rest underground... in a park or something???
hope that helps?
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Re: Dance vs. Architecture
Asharch22 wrote:Hello,
I'm currently working on my own project for the summer before I head back to 2nd year in Architecture. (Mainly to strengthen my design process, develop a particular style and work with more software programs such as Rhino) My background is dance, prior to architecture, and always dreamt of combining these two passions. I devised my own project which is comprised of designing a functional structure that is utilized for a museum in honor of Loie Fuller. Fuller was a pioneer to modern dance, and was one of the many artist that evoked Art Nouveau. (Art Nouveau is probably one of my favourite art movements.... Gaudi has become my main inspiration lately).
Loie Fuller was draped in volominous silk fabric when dancing. She was the first individual to innovate lighting on stage as well. When she danced she metaphorized into different objects such as clouds, serpents, orchids, etc... as the color changed upon her white sheets of fabric.
My goal is to capture the essence of Loie Fuller and Art Nouveau while establishing my own unique style. I'm afraid I might take it too literally though, since I'm captivated by the movement of the silk material and lighting.
If you have any suggestions, feel free!
Thanks
Quite a good method of style generation, but you'll have to develop the technology of structure and then adapt your design to it. The other way around is possible, but its more problematic. If you don't really like solving problems, then you'll suffer

- experiMental
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Re: Dance vs. Architecture
Frank Gehry did a building in Prague, that was supposedly inspired by a couple dancing. It's nikcnamed the Fred and Ginger building, after Fred Astaire, and Ginger something or other. (I don't know the first thing about dance, but it's a famous female dancer).
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Re: Dance vs. Architecture
You could do worse than study the drapery of statues from classical antiquity. Not only are they solid representations of fabric, the 'material' often falls in folds that look uncannily like catenary arches which, as any Gaudi watcher would know, were the basis for his structural system, except turned upside-down.
Do you know what an upside-down catenary arch is called?
Do you know what an upside-down catenary arch is called?
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Re: Dance vs. Architecture
Am I allowed to answer and is the answer "cosh"; because that is certainly an answer, as is "a catenary" and indeed catenary is probably the latin for chain since a catenaty is the shape a chain makes when suspended by both ends.
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I've never heard 'cosh' before, nor the use of 'catenary' for the inverted version (though I don't doubt you!).
Does this picture ring any bells? It should for you, notjim:
Yours etc.,
ctesiphon (arch)
Edit- See also here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenary
Does this picture ring any bells? It should for you, notjim:
Yours etc.,
ctesiphon (arch)
Edit- See also here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenary
In Antiquity, the curvature of the inverted catenary was intuitively discovered and found to lead to stable arches and vaults. A spectacular example remains in the Taq-i Kisra in Ctesiphon, which was once a great city of Mesopotamia.
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Re: Dance vs. Architecture
Mathematically, and here I am in the unusual position, for me, on this forum, of talking from professional expertise, the catenary curve is given by hyperbolic cos, written cosh(x)
cosh(x)=[exp(x)+exp(-x)]/2
I was going to derive it but I see the Wikipedia page ctesiphon links gives the workings.
Here is a spectacular example of catenary vaulting:

cosh(x)=[exp(x)+exp(-x)]/2
I was going to derive it but I see the Wikipedia page ctesiphon links gives the workings.
Here is a spectacular example of catenary vaulting:

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Re: Dance vs. Architecture
not great examples but I know for a fact there is a fractal out there that will kinda do what your looking for..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Atractor_Poisson_Saturne.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophysis_%28software%29
http://www.iaacblog.com/erikthorson/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/538426178_42de1955a7.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Atractor_Poisson_Saturne.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophysis_%28software%29
http://www.iaacblog.com/erikthorson/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/538426178_42de1955a7.jpg
- missarchi
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Re: Dance vs. Architecture
wow, i really appreciate all of ur input...
Lately I've been sketching catenary arches, as it reminds me of the ripples of loie's dress (unintentionally ofcourse thinking of gaudi)
And yes, maybe I should play around more with the technology of the structure... hmm wish me luck! lol
Thanks again
Lately I've been sketching catenary arches, as it reminds me of the ripples of loie's dress (unintentionally ofcourse thinking of gaudi)
And yes, maybe I should play around more with the technology of the structure... hmm wish me luck! lol
Thanks again
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Re: Dance vs. Architecture
remember to photograph your work and give it back to your tutors for criticism. If they are good tutors, they will always give you feedback.
I doubt whether it would be worth your while to post your work on this forum. It's not very active and I'm no big expert on architecture
I doubt whether it would be worth your while to post your work on this forum. It's not very active and I'm no big expert on architecture

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