Carlton Cinema Development

Carlton Cinema Development

Postby MG » Fri Aug 06, 1999 7:58 am

Seems to have received the OK by An Bord Pleananla [bless their little hearts and may wisdom come down upon them] but whats this comment from The Irish Independent mean?

"It will retain the existing Carlton Cinema facade though the Art Deco facades flanking the cinema are to be redesigned"
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Postby john white » Fri Aug 06, 1999 9:42 am

I can't think of any Art facades flanking it.

This sounds a bit scary to me.

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Postby RoryW » Fri Aug 06, 1999 3:46 pm

On the left side of the carlton cinema is "Dr Quirks" palace of rubbish (hardly art deco) and on the right is a long-long-long vacant site and the Fingal CC offices. So the Indo couldn't be bothered sending someone 100 yards up the road!!!

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Postby Des-Ire » Fri Aug 06, 1999 6:03 pm

maybe they're actually talking about the ends of the Carlton building itself
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Postby john white » Fri Aug 06, 1999 6:44 pm

Yes, exactly - that's what scares me.

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Postby John White » Mon Aug 09, 1999 9:47 am

What's that on the top? I don't remember that peaked roof. Sort of mock Palladian. I could be wrong. I'll have a look at lunchtime.

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Postby Paul Clerkin » Mon Aug 09, 1999 9:50 am

That "attic storey" is a new addition.
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Postby john white » Mon Aug 09, 1999 1:34 pm

Don't you think it's a stylistic disaster?

Did you ever see the proposed design for the Rialto Bridge in Venice - by Palladio I think?

Cannaletto did the conceptual painting.
It was horrendous. It was rejected thank God. This reminds me of it.

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The Carlton - as it is

Postby dstc47 » Mon Aug 09, 1999 7:54 pm

There is a recent photograph of the Carlton on the Art Deco Ireland site, including the vacant site beside it, if you want to compare and contrast.
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Salon/6941/deco1.htm
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Postby john white » Thu Aug 12, 1999 6:12 pm

Aghh... I think I'd prefer Palladio!

It's just occured to me that the attic section looks like that Bloated Ulster Bank
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You know? The weak looking peaked aluminium section.

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Carlton Cinema Site

Postby GregF » Mon Jun 10, 2002 9:30 am

Sad to see that nothing materialized here on the Carlton Cinema site years after the wrangling between the vying developers and finally the granting of planning permission. It sounded great what was proposed....but alas no more............stupid bloody lying developers.....the Council was right to compularily purchase it back.
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Postby Paul Clerkin » Mon Jun 10, 2002 9:38 am

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Postby urbanisto » Mon Jun 10, 2002 12:16 pm

I had thought that the erection of scaffolding and the covering of window ast the site this past fortnight meant that things would finally start to move but it seems not. They really REALLY need to do something soon with this site and I think the decision to compulsory purcahse it is correct. But where to next...

Also the link to the Indo doesnt work...its all pay as you go now and I believe the Times will follow suit. So much for freedom of information!

Isnt O'Connell St such a depressing site at the moment...
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Postby deepnote » Mon Jun 10, 2002 12:21 pm

The link does work, the Times is a pay site, but the Independent is not, as yet...
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Postby Paul Clerkin » Mon Jun 10, 2002 12:36 pm

The Carlton makes me want to cry everytime I pass it or come out of the Savoy opposite.
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Postby urbanisto » Mon Jun 10, 2002 4:35 pm

The Savoy is another building thats in need of a facelift as well. I imagine they havent done anything to it since the 80s (same goes for the Screen). These should have a much higher profile than they do at the moment.
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Postby JackHack » Mon Jun 10, 2002 5:07 pm

Personally I like the Carlton site the way it it.

It still has hope and whenever I pass I can imagine the possiblilites for such a great site.

The Carlton site reminds me of Gardiners St the way it was 10 yrs ago. Gardiner st had potential to be a magnificant st. but alas it will have to wait until the next generation of buildings replace whats gone up. Maybe the Summerhill corner will elevate the street above bland nothingness.
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Postby iuxta » Mon Jun 10, 2002 5:26 pm

Has anyone seen the Caralton recently?

I passed it on friday and the building has been cladded in some sort of boarding, the windows have been covered with that printed mesh to look like new ones and the neon signs have been restored.

The enpty site next door had a scaffolding erected which was then covered in more printed mesh, this time printed with a copy of the facade of Dr.Quirkeys.

It looked not at all bad really. the boarding is coloured the same as the facade and as its so clean and smooth, it gave an impression of how it might appear if restored. it all looks a bit like the art deco you find in california.
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Postby Paul Clerkin » Mon Jun 10, 2002 5:43 pm

for a film perhaps?
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Postby iuxta » Wed Jun 12, 2002 8:58 am

Hmmm, not sure really Paul. it wasn't really realistic to convince on celluloid. It looked sorta fake, more as though it was to give an impression. i was wondering if it was something to do with the court action by the carlton group, as part of their action against Dublin City Council's CPO on the site.
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Postby kefu » Wed Jun 12, 2002 12:43 pm

It must be to do with the film because they put up a new neon sign on the Ambassador as well and were filming there on Tuesday night. The film name on the Ambassador was Spicey World if that means anything to anyone. I can't remember what the neon sign was calling the Ambassador. I can only assume that the Carlton is also being used for the same purpose
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Postby LOB » Wed Jun 12, 2002 2:57 pm

The sign (Bulb not neon) is
EMPIRE
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Postby kefu » Thu Jun 13, 2002 11:16 am

Sorry, you're right - it's bulb. I passed it at speed in my car. My point was that it was a film, however, which I think is correct.
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Postby urbanisto » Fri Jun 28, 2002 4:48 pm

Well done to the Gresham the latest establishment on O'Connell St to do their part for its renovation. As Bertie would say...'A Lot done, a lot more to do'
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Postby Paul Clerkin » Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:13 pm

What have they done?
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