thomond park redevelopment

Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby PVC King » Wed May 11, 2005 9:43 pm

Seriously lads stop the mud slinging and start posting images of the good the bad and the ugly.

A new Thomond Park seating 35,000 of the faithful would be a development unlike a lot of the Texas business park style buildings that have been lauded here. Limerick is a city with the potential to develop into an urban space of real quality given its street pattern which makes a lot of the unambiious muck being erected all the sadder. What Galway or Cork does is a matter for other threads.

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Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby dave123 » Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:16 pm

:) What's up lex ?
Munster Look To The Future
Munster Branch President Niall O’Driscoll has unveiled plans to develop Thomond Park and Musgrave Park in a new €30m redevelopment programme. The plans include upgrading Thomond Park into a 26,000 capacity stadium, a new 6,500 capacity stand in Musgrave Park and the provision of additional playing and training facilities to develop age grade rugby in the province. A major fundraising drive was also unveiled by the Munster Branch to fund the redevelopments. A tax based scheme is at the centre of the fund raising drive, which operates under the Sports Capital Tax legislation.

The development sub committee hope to submit planning applications in early 2005
i can;t seem to find any plans for view of the thomond park redevlopment,(hopefully domeone will be able to)

here is PDF of limericity happenings of 2005
[B]http://www.limerickcorp.ie/general/finance/documents/Managers_Report_for_2005.pdf
http://www.limerickcity.ie/services/planning/devplan2004/DevelopmentPlan2004.pdf

http://www.limerickcity.ie/general/clerks/Agenda/Agenda-050501.pdf[/B]Some areas of interest for people who would like to know a bit more about Limerick.

http://www.businesslimerick.ie/
http://www.limerickcity.ie
http://www.limerick.com
http://www.limerickcoco.ie
http://www.lit.ie
http://www.ul.ie
http://www.limerickpost.ie
http://www.limerick-leader.ie
http://www.limerick.ie
http://www.clarionhotellimerick.com
http://www.limerickcity.net
http://www.lcoeb.ie/
http://www.shannondev.ie
http://www.limchamber.ie/

more updates.... Riverpoint ready for September!
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Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby PVC King » Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:19 pm

Great to see Thomond Park receiving investment it has been Limericks most noted feature in popular culture for a few years since the European Cup arrived. I'm sure the stadium will do very well once completed as it symbolises all that is good about Limerick being youthful in a mature setting, independent and viable.

From a planning perspective Thomond is a good model being served by numerous hosteleries that put much needed turnover into the local area and its proximity to the City Centre. I wonder just how many bed-nights this venue is responsible per year?

This type of investment symbolises exactly what was wrong with 'National Sporting Campus' at Abbotstown as regional projects like this would have been starved of the required resources to get them off the ground.

Dave I like many others on this forum would I suspect like to see some images.

P.S. Do I have any unique attributes to get some consultancy work out of this one?
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Re: Thomond Park redevelopment

Postby limericklover » Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:07 pm

lexington wrote:Usually I keep up to date-ish on these things, but any word from Shannonside about teh IRFU's redevelopment of Thomond Park? (The venue not the contributor! :p )


I know someone involved in the development of T park, who tells me that it is awaiting approval at the moment for the creation of a 25000 seater. Perhaps you are aware of this.
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Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby dave123 » Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:49 pm

That’s great news :) hope the Thomond park, gets the go ahead soon as possible as this has been on the agenda for years now. This project will be tremendous benefit, not just for Limerick city but the whole of Munster!!! It will bring people down this side of the country,
Munster have its very own state of the art stadium!!
It will give tourists and foreigners and people a whole new perspective of the city,
Limerick will become the sporting capital of Ireland, and will show what positive attributes Limerick has to offer. Thomond Park will heighten this.

The "Meedia" are probably the only bunch to be negative about the development of this kind in Limerick, it will be interesting to know what they say when Thomond park will capable of holding international games outside of Dublin :) as another alternative.
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Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby dave123 » Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:56 pm

WHAT'S GOING WITH THOMOND PARK REDEVELOPMENT?


There are too many stories going around about the Stadium, whether it is closing,moving or waiting on the final go-ahead to rebuild the stadium etc...? :confused:
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Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby Tuborg » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:12 am

Havent been on in a while, i think the novelty of being back in college is still kicking in!

Well according to reports in the local media, the future of thomond park looks pretty bleak, the limerick leader even went as far as saying that it was "closing down", apparently the deadline for the residents to take up the irfu's offer was sometime last week and as this has come and gone they say they are now examining other locations, already the old greenpark racecourse has been touted as a possible location, the munster branch recently bought lands in groody but this is only being used as a training base. Thomond park was bought by the irfu in 1998 and refurbished for the rugby world cup the following year, if it was still in local ownership there might be some hope of keeping it in its original location but tradition dosent mean much to that crowd up in d4. Whatever about the location within the city, if Limerick was to lose out to cork completely, it would be an absolute disaster as heineken cup games bring significant income into the city, apparently musgrave park is ready for its revamp while the plans for limerick are in limbo, i think its time for a bit of leadership from politicians in limerick to stop this nonsense going any further!

As for some of the developments mentioned over the last week or so- the hoel on the childers road has indeed started construction, the foundations and steelworks are in progress at the moment, i think theres going to be around 100 or so bedrooms, theres supposedly a retail element associated with it, there was talk of a town centre for southill and roxborough but there hasnt been much news about it recently!, the old jurys on the ennis road was also levelled over the last few weeks, a new 4/5 star hotel and apartment complex will surface from the rubble here, preliminary work has also begun on the new hotel at the savoy site, some buildings here have yet to be demolished but are sure to follow soon, although work hasnt progressed much on the bedford row pedestrianisation project, i suppose with all the construction work in the vicinity its not surprising. By the way that site that was referred to on denmark st is supposed to be where finns are building a new super pub, 3 floors apparently, not much of a fan of these places, they're pretty soulless and are often basically empty during weeknights!

The bank of scotland development is nearing completion, elverys opened there a few weeks back and a number of other retailers have reserved space, the finishing touches are being put to the units nearest to the george site, the entrance to the revamped hotel will be next door to the bank of scotland development on shanon street. Also the ESB are shortly to vacate their premises on bishops quay, this is an interesting one as their property here had been holding back the continued development of the riverfront, the current building is fairly well dwarfed by the riverpoint tower,it'll be interesting to see what happens here over the next few weeks or so, as far as i know the bank of scotland now own this site, speaking of riverpoint does anyone have an opening date?, as soon as it opens its doors the end is nigh for munchins house, looking forward to that! :D

Finally its really sad to see newsoms closing after all these years, another limerick institution bites the dust, also i see meteor has taken over the prime unit at the corner of william st and o connell st, oh dear, another opportunity lost :(
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Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby ShaneP » Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:33 pm

What will happen to Shannon if Thomond Park goes then? Will the whole place be sold off? Can't say I'm too excited about the idea of a superpub on Denmark St. - it's a bit annoying to hear about something like that, when Quinns on Ellen St. just closed it's doors a few weeks ago - now that was a super pub in a good sence. It will be interesting to see what happens to the ESB offices - one of the most underutilised sites still left by the river, great news that it's closing anyway for starters.
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Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby dave123 » Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:52 pm

Well,
First of all the IRFU is just trying to scare the hell out of the limerick Rugby fans. They keep changing their minds on whether to keep the stadium or lump it!
They know how much the Limerick fans would react if it was to close down Thomond park and pack in
There would be uproar, I can't see the scenario of IRFU leaving limerick :rolleyes:

The ESB building sale is exciting news to the city centre, I myself am looking forward to hear what comes out of this site in the near future, :D
St Munchins house behind it will be knocked soon, and of course the amazing Riverpoint, this should give hints for a new high-rise or retail complex on the ESB grounds. This is probably one the last prime stretches of investment on Henry Street that needs attention.
Also there is a new development that was recently granted which is across the road from the ESB building will
Consist of the existing building, which will be demolished, and replaced with a new 2-storey building comprising 2 retail outlets on the ground floor and 2 offices on the first floor. This is part of a Protected Structure, on 20 Henry Street.

I'm not a fan of super pubs either, But speaking of that area.

There is a huge development on Ellen street which got granted planning permission, which is, of a mixed use development comprising of 6 storeys over basement to maximum height of 23.7m above grade comprising 34 no. Underground car park spaces, 5 no. Ground floor retail units totalling 916.8 sq.m, 43 no. 2-bed apartments and 3 no. 3 bed apartments on first to fifth floors with associated balconies, roof garden and associated site development works
The site is currently derelict I think. And across the road I heard that there a five storey building with apartments which is under planning permission, I'll keep my eyes on these developments on that street.
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Turborg the hotel complex you mentioned I heard that a storey or two was knocked off, Is this right from its current proprosals of 12 storeys? I cant wait to see this addition to the skyline :D
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agggh how do all these gawdy bland retailers put thier shops in that street meteor is going to give a bit of orange to the street :( I cant understand why anybody would shopp down Williams street anymore, :mad:
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Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby ShaneP » Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:55 pm

http://www.limerick-leader.ie/issues/20060128/news01.htm

Good news re Thomond Park, I think everyone will agree?
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Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby Maskhadov » Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:20 am

good news indeed. I thought it was going to be a 26,000 ALL SEATER. I hope they build modularly so they can bring the capacity up with ease in the future
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Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby PVC King » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:40 pm

Thomond development gets green light
Tuesday, 14 March 2006 11:52



Thomond Park

Thomond Park will be re-developed as a 26,000 capacity rugby stadium by the IRFU Development Committee, it was announced today.

It had been expected that Musgrave Park would become the home of Munster rugby since talks with the residents of Knockalisheen Road over the purchase of their homes, necessary to allow for the development of Thomond, had stalled.

Though full details of the project have yet to be announced, it is now certain that the development will go ahead at Thomond Park.


Looks like I'm to get a makeover :D

In relation to the above post,

good on Kathy Synnott the Peoples Park incident is a disgrace and there can be no excuses on this one; it was a public park a fact which is inescapable.
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Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby PVC King » Fri May 26, 2006 7:03 pm

Thomond redevelopment is unveiled
Friday, 26 May 2006 5:05



Thomond Park

The home of Munster rugby, Thomond Park, is to be given a €40 million facelift that will bring the capacity of the ground to 26,000 and should be open for business in the autumn of 2008.

Known world-wide already as a ground which hosts the most animated supporters in the world the new look Thomond Park will have two new stands in addition to new changing rooms, medical suite, executive boxes, banqueting facilities and supporters bars.

Two sweeping arches of the new stands will ultimately become an image that everyone will associate with the famous ground at which Munster have never lost a Heineken cup game in its eleven seasons and where the All-Blacks were beaten on October 31st 1978, the only defeat of that tour.

Planning permission will be sought in July of this year and all the work will be completed within eighteen months.

When completed there will be seating for 15,000 and terrace capacity of 11,000.

Pat Whelan, former International and former Irish team coach, said: "The re-development represents a major project for Munster and Irish rugby."

Munster Branch President, Ken Lyons, said: "There are very few rugby followers in the world who are not aware of the history and great traditions associated with rugby at Thomond Park. This re-development is entirely fitting, more so in view of Munster's magnificent Heineken European cup win last week-end".

Richard Leng, Chairman of AFL, stadium architects, said "The development will provide state of the art facilities for spectators, supporters, and players in an environment where the unique atmosphere of Munster rugby will be retained and intensified.

Down the years what has made Thomond Park legendary for its atmosphere has been the proximity of supporters to the pitch. This, according to Hugh Murray of Murray O'Laoire architects, "will enhance the legendary intensity of the Munster experience by having 15,000 as close to the pitch as possible."

To facilitate the new plans the IRFU purchased several houses adjacent to the ground at Knockalisheen Road which, if not sold by the owners, could have jeopardised the project.




Looks like I am for demolition :D
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Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby CologneMike » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:29 pm

Thomond Park
Thomond redevelopment is unveiled


Click here for photos from launch of the Thomond Park Re-Development at the Clarion Hotel in Limerick.

http://www.irishrugby.ie/newspage/76718.html :)
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Re: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

Postby Goofy » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:13 am

The demolition of Thomond Park is now well underway. All of the houses are now a couple piles of rubble and most of the east stand is gone
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Re: thomond park redevelopment

Postby CologneMike » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:41 pm

(June 1st 2006)

Just seen more Thomond Park redevelopment imagery
posted by squid of Billy the Squid fame


http://www.archiseek.com/content/showpost.php?p=51654&postcount=634
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Re: thomond park redevelopment

Postby PVC King » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:26 pm

Good images; it looks impressive and it looks like the pitch is lower than street level. Which if correct will make it much more impressive inside than outside. It is great to see the Munster Branch building a proper home.
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Re: thomond park redevelopment

Postby CologneMike » Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:35 pm

PVC King wrote:Good images]more impressive inside than outside[/B]. It is great to see the Munster Branch building a proper home.


It’s a bit late in the day to revisit the poker game the IRFU played with the local Ballynanty residents last year, as they required a row of houses from them to redevelop the rugby grounds. If that was not possible then, the unthinkable alternative would have been to build on a new green field site, most likely somewhere near the university. Well we were all spared that horror scenario.

I suppose the relief of the location decision, thoughts of an extra 10,000 tickets and images of a sea of red fans in a modern rugby stadium blotted out two issues.

Visual impact and car parking.

Thomond park is situated in a predominately residential area of Ballynanty, Mayorstone and Thomondgate which are all low built housing estates. The images below show that the new stadium will have a very dominant visual impact on the whole area (Positive or negative?).

Whereas car parking is very limited, sure the nearby Limerick Institute of technology car park helps out on match days but imagine the traffic at a top Friday night game with 26,000 fans?

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Re: thomond park redevelopment

Postby publicrealm » Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:18 pm

[quote="CologneMike"]’

Thomond park is situated in a predominately residential area of Ballynanty, Mayorstone and Thomondgate which are all low built housing estates. The images below show that the new stadium will have a very dominant visual impact on the whole area (Positive or negative?).QUOTE]


Agreed that it will be visually prominent - but it is fitting that Limerick should have a prominent rugby stadium.

I don't really like the design - very functional and engineered - pity its not more iconic. So I'm not certain whether the high visual impact will be positive or negative.

I expect that the LCC Planner's Report will have expressed a view though?
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Re: thomond park redevelopment

Postby Goofy » Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:35 pm

Where the west stand once stood.
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View of the East terrace with Houses behind demolished
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Re: thomond park redevelopment

Postby Goofy » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:59 am

Redevelopment Progressing Well
23 April 2007, 4:54 pm
By Pat Geraghty

The work to redevelop Thomond Park continues apace with the demolition of the old structure almost complete and plans to commence construction of the new stand right on schedule.
It is envisaged that the ground will host European Cup rugby later this year with the capacity (13,000 approx) the same as it has always been for the three 2007/2008 Pool games. After those games have been completed the ground will close again and work will resume to bring the capacity up to 26,000 in time for the 2008/2009 season.
John Hartery, a member of the Thomond Park Redevelopment Committee explaining the current state said, "The project started on time and I would say that in terms of progress, we are where we need to be at this point in time".

Hartery also confirmed that the sales target for 10 Year Tickets has been achieved and he expects that details of the availability of the proposed 20 Corporate Boxes will be announced in the coming weeks.

In relation to the existing tenant clubs, the Shannon clubhouse will remain in its existing location while UL Bohemians will be accomodated in the new West Stand.

The finished stadium will incorporate numerous hospitality facilities including hospitality suites and general public bars. Car parking will be as before, limited to match day personnel.

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/19_3414.php
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Re: thomond park redevelopment

Postby tfarmer » Thu May 17, 2007 4:10 am

That’s great news hope the Thomond park, gets the go ahead soon as possible as this has been on the agenda for years now. This project will be tremendous benefit, not just for Limerick city but the whole of Munster!!! It will bring people down this side of the country,
Munster have its very own state of the art stadium!!
It will give tourists and foreigners and people a whole new perspective of the city,
Limerick will become the sporting capital of Ireland, and will show what positive attributes Limerick has to offer. Thomond Park will heighten this.

Yes then they will invest billions in the local economy making the inhabitants of limerick city rich beyond their wildest dreams and all the social problems in limerick will dissapear thanks to ' Thomound park'. Its only a stadium calm down in england every small sized town has a stadium of this size.
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Re: thomond park redevelopment

Postby CologneMike » Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:30 pm

Red Bull Park and Hand Me Downs

A lot of talk about renaming Thomond Park in a lucrative sponsorship deal. Needless to say it brought out a lot of adverse comments around the city but my favourite to date would be “Red Bull Park”, so Paul Clerkin you might have to rename the title of this thread yet!

The parallel re-development of Thomond Park and Landsdowne Road brought a bitter remark from a friend of mine. As he is working on the Thomond Park re-development, he is rather somewhat irate with the consultants overseeing this project that they were offloading second-hand equipment from Landsdowne road to Thomond park (i.e. Floodlighting etc.)

Let these Leinster consultants be forewarned if they think reciprocal offloading of any part of Thomond Park to Landsdowne road is possible, especially our playing pitch. Too much sweat, blood and tears have fallen on it’s soil and this “field” still belongs to John “Bull” Hayes.:D

I believe the first phase of the stadium will be ready for their opening Heineken game in Autumn. Any up to date images of Thomond Park about?
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Re: thomond park redevelopment

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Re: thomond park redevelopment

Postby tfarmer » Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:26 pm

looking good gotta say. The fact that they demolished those crappy nearby houses also helps its image a lot too. Hopefully the development of the stadium will help regenerate that whole area which if you've ever driven in that area needs to be completely demolished.
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