grangegorman allocated 262 million

grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby fjh » Fri Apr 26, 2002 5:18 pm

so dit finally got their money.

last i heard, scott tallon walker were to design it.

so, dit will sqaunder thier money and a highly important site on a crappy campus designed by the most stagnant and unimaginative firm in ireland.

F U C K scott tallon walker.
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Postby Paul Clerkin » Fri Apr 26, 2002 5:38 pm

Is 262 million enough? That kind of budget, it should be a competition.
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Postby fjh » Fri Apr 26, 2002 6:22 pm

i think 262 million is only what the government is putting up, dit has been hoarding funds to put towards it for years, while its courses go on under funded and without up to date facilities.

i would be great if a competition was held for it, it would be such a great opportunity for ireland to show off some world class design with a state of the art new campus. but i doubt that a competition will be held.


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http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2002/0424/1167656673HM5DITGORMAN.html
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Postby vitruvius » Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 pm

Why STW indeed?
I suppose DIT know exactly what they're going to get - Chinese granite, metal grilles, wood panelled glazed atria - all very nice but a bit plain and lacking in ambition - reflective of DIT's managment structure so at least they'll feel at home in it
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Postby Rory W » Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:08 pm

What's going to happen to the major DIT buildings like Aungier Street and Bolton Street?
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Re: grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby PVC King » Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:49 pm

Looks like this may actually happen afterall


Two shortlisted for post of Dublin city manager
From:ireland.com
Saturday, 3rd June, 2006


Two candidates have been shortlisted to succeed John Fitzgerald as Dublin city manager, The Irish Times has learned. They are Cork city manager Joe Gavin and Fingal county manager John Tierney.

Mr Fitzgerald, who is credited with transforming Dublin City Council, steps down on June 16th after 10 years in office.

His job was advertised by the Public Appointments Commission last April, with a salary in the range of €150,000 to €200,000.

The city council is seeking a new chief executive who "will consolidate the progress achieved over the past decade, to lead the city forward as well as motivate a workforce of 6,500 and manage a budget of €2 billion.

There were more than 20 applicants for the post, including some from the private sector.

Most of the applicants were senior local authority officials, including several from the top level of the city administration.

Mr Gavin, who is in his late fifties, has been Cork city manager for the past seven years. Previously, he served as Galway city manager.

Mr Tierney, who is in his mid-40s, succeeded him in Galway before moving to Fingal last year.

Both are to be interviewed again next week by a board consisting of Niall Callan, secretary general of the Department of the Environment; Seán Dorgan, chief executive of IDA Ireland; Dorothy Scally, a human resources specialist, and Mr Fitzgerald himself.

It is anticipated that the name of his successor will be announced next Friday.

Mr Fitzgerald has been appointed as chairman of the development agency that will oversee the relocation of Dublin Institute of Technology to Grangegorman.
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Postby StephenC » Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:47 pm

I think they should look at someone from outside Ireland.... a UK manager. Bring a fresh perspective on things
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Postby lunasa » Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:17 pm

StephenC wrote:I think they should look at someone from outside Ireland.... a UK manager. Bring a fresh perspective on things

mmmmm....I feel I ought to comment about this one, but am not so sure of what to say. A fresh perspective to things would, in my mind, more likely come from outside the English speaking world. But who am I to criticise a culture where when you push '1' on the TV remote BBC 1 pops up. And as for the Queen, I usually ask which one.
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Re: grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby PVC King » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:59 pm

Important tourist attractions wherever they reign

I concur with your point and think that someone like Pascal Maguelle from Barcelona would have been a great addition to the city. I also think that Ken Livingston has done a great job particularly with transport in London. Traffic is moving freely in the City and West End for the first time in decades which is a tribute to Livingston's strength of will and a comparison with the Luas ducking Dawson Street is quite tragic.

I also think to overly concentrate on outsiders would be unfair to Fitzgerald who has established himself in the European pecking order as an individual of European standing in terms of the changes he has overseen. If every government promise for funding made was honoured on time he would have acheived a great deal more and I really hope that he is not let down at Grangegorman as many times as he was as City Manager.

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Postby kite » Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:15 pm

StephenC wrote:I think they should look at someone from outside Ireland.... a UK manager. Bring a fresh perspective on things


:eek: So Dublin is to get a new City Manager?
Two sites worth a visit to see what you may be letting yourselves in for.

http://www.bailii.org/ie/cases/IEHC/2001/53.html
http://www.corksouthwest.com
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Re: grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby StephenC » Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:46 pm

also think to overly concentrate on outsiders would be unfair to Fitzgerald who has established himself in the European pecking order as an individual of European standing in terms of the changes he has overseen. If every government promise for funding made was honoured on time he would have acheived a great deal more and I really hope that he is not let down at Grangegorman as many times as he was as City Manager.


I completely agree that John Fitzgerald has been an outstanding success in reinventing the council and changing its (often very negative) view of the city and its citizens.

My suggestion of a UK manager stems from the fact that (administratively at least) UK councils tend to be quite innovative and successful at pushing through new ideas. But its true, the choice should not be limited to UK. I just think that this is an important point fo Dublin. The new city manager needs to build on the achievements of push the city forward. Fitzgerald has broken through a lot of the psychological barriers to changing the way people use and view the city and a fresh outside perspective could go along way to developing Dublin into an important European capital.

Theres still plenty of things to do at DCC... a recent look at their website would show that. Its become so cluttered and second rate looking ( i still think you should be offering your services P Clerkin!). And dysfunctional departments like Roads and Public Lighting need to be tackled. Improving the city's quays should also be a big priority for the next guy (why not any women?)
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Re: grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby jdivision » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:40 am

Rory W wrote:What's going to happen to the major DIT buildings like Aungier Street and Bolton Street?

They're to be sold off
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Re: grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby Rory W » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:57 pm

Thanks for that - just goes to show if you wait around long enough you can get an answer!!!:)
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Postby jdivision » Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:13 pm

Rory W wrote:Thanks for that - just goes to show if you wait around long enough you can get an answer!!!:)

Sorry, didn't even see the date on the thread!
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Re: grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby Paul Clerkin » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:11 am

Grangegorman design competition opens
The Sunday Business Post

An international design competition to masterplan the development of Grangegorman is now open, with expressions of interest due by April 16. An international design competition to masterplan the development of Grangegorman is now open, with expressions of interest due by April 16. The masterplan will include the development of a new campus for the Dublin Institute of Technology (DIT) along with health and other community facilities at the 74-acre site near Smithfield in Dublin city centre. The site is in two lots located on either side of the Grangegorman Road, and extends from the North Circular Road as far south as North Brunswick Street and from Broadstone to the rear of Prussia Street. The site is zoned for recreational, institutional and community use.

http://www.sbpost.ie/post/pages/p/story.aspx-qqqt=COMMERCIAL-qqqm=nav-qqqid=21822-qqqx=1.asp
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Re: grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby Blisterman » Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:10 am

That's good to hear. I'd love to see some world class architects designing it.
We need to put Ireland on the architectural map.
Example
http://www.greatbuildings.com/places/ireland.html

Not a single building built in the last 200 years.


Of course, Ideally it would be a world class IRISH architect, but unfortunately, there really isn't any.
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Re: grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby tommyt » Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:17 am

I was Bit confused by the wording of the tender I saw in the Times the other day. Are they looking to hold a starchitects beauty contest or do a masterplan like an LAP or Framework Plan? Isn't it all supposed to be built by 2010 as well!
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Re: grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby PTB » Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:06 am

Blisterman wrote:That's good to hear. I'd love to see some world class architects designing it.
We need to put Ireland on the architectural map.
Example
http://www.greatbuildings.com/places/ireland.html

Not a single building built in the last 200 years.


Of course, Ideally it would be a world class IRISH architect, but unfortunately, there really isn't any.


We have the Glucksman. Which is one world class building. Are there really no others?
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Postby Frank Taylor » Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:06 pm

tommyt wrote:I was Bit confused by the wording of the tender I saw in the Times the other day. Are they looking to hold a starchitects beauty contest or do a masterplan like an LAP or Framework Plan?
Maybe Andrzej Wejchert will be given the job. He seems to have gathered a lot of Irish educational institution work since UCD.
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Re: grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby rira » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:30 pm

Because UCD is the aspiration!
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Re: grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby shadow » Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:01 pm

it is precisely not the ambition to be like UCD in fact it is likely to be a different type of campus altogether.
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Re: grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby PTB » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:07 am

In what way?
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Postby notjim » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:58 am

Andrzej Wejchert plan would have been very good if they had kept to it and didn't go hog wild building stumpy buildings and car parks everywhere.
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Re: grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby Paul Clerkin » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:25 pm

Grangegorman Development Agency Announces Appointment Of Chief Executive Officer
Filed: 30th April 2007 11:39 AM

The Grangegorman Development Agency has announced the appointment of Mr. Gerry Murphy as chief executive officer of the Agency, from June 2007. Mr. Murphy joins the Grangegorman Development Agency from the National Roads Authority where he was the Head of Public Partnerships and Network Tolling since 1999.

Announcing Mr. Murphy’s appointment, John Fitzgerald, chairman of the Grangegorman Development Agency, said: "I am delighted that Gerry is joining us. He will take the helm at the very start of an exciting development project which aims to create a new city quarter, comprising a DIT campus which will re-house over 20,000 DIT students along with health and community services and recreational amenities.’

‘I am confident that Gerry’s wealth of experience and knowledge of property planning and development through his work with the National Roads Authority and other high profile projects will prove advantageous as he drives this development to completion," continued Fitzgerald.

Mr. Murphy is taking on the chief executive officer role of the Agency at an ideal time as work on preparing a masterplan design for Grangegorman gets underway. The masterplan section of the development is expected to complete at the end of 2007.

An engineer by profession, Mr. Murphy has project managed very large infrastructure projects on behalf of Dublin City Council and Dublin County Council. He has also had particular involvement in developing the public private partnership model for financing public infrastructure on behalf of the National Roads Authority. Mr. Murphy previously worked for Concern in Tanzania as a Water Projects Engineer.

Mr. Murphy holds academic qualifications in both Engineering and Teaching and is a Chartered Member of Engineers Ireland since 1988.
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Re: grangegorman allocated 262 million

Postby PTB » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:59 pm

Wheres the hospital thats on the site going to go? When will it go?
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