Developments in Cork

[Spinal Tap]

Harry Crosbie is in discussions with a Cork Developer (OCP) Regarding a 2,500 - 3,000 seater venue in Cork with Mahon being one of the 2 possible sites for the proposed development.

[jdivision]

the unit on pat st was fairly big if you were ever in there, thats why i was saying that it was finally a unit that was big enough for these retailers but yet its being turned into a bank.

By Patrick St standards maybe but not by fashion retailers standards. The ideal situation would have been one of them taking the unit and also taking the NIB one with NIB moving somewhere secondary. Re: Frinailla, they should still apply for apartments in the knowledge that it would probably be passed by ABP. Am getting more and more worried by this CSD crowd. í´m based in dublin so don´t know enough about them but as an unelected and unaccountable body they appear to be wielding far too much influence.
Re: Harry Crosbie, that was in The Sunday business post last sunday

[rebel_city]

Was just reading about the huge plans for both Limerick docklands and the proposed new Galway port. It said Limerick is a 40acre site and Galway has 32acres. Does anyone know what the size of the area up for development in the Cork docklands?

It also said that for Galway the proposal is to make it the "Sysbey Harbour" or Ireland - which would be great for the west of Ireland. Haulbowline island really needs to get a push and used as a landmark for Cork Harbour!

[kite]

Was just reading about the huge plans for both Limerick docklands and the proposed new Galway port. It said Limerick is a 40acre site and Galway has 32acres. Does anyone know what the size of the area up for development in the Cork docklands?

Cork's Docklands cover an area of 166 hectares of land on both banks of the River Lee, with 4 kilometres of waterfront.

[Spinal Tap]

Cork's Docklands cover an area of 166 hectares of land on both banks of the River Lee, with 4 kilometres of waterfront.

Speaking of Docklands any word on Werdna's application ?

Is the Horgans Quay application any nearer being lodged ?

Doyles Warehouse behing on the Albert Quay /Albert Street and the other smaller warehouses on Albert Quay ?

[daniel_7]

By Patrick St standards maybe but not by fashion retailers standards. The ideal situation would have been one of them taking the unit and also taking the NIB one with NIB moving somewhere secondary. Re: Frinailla, they should still apply for apartments in the knowledge that it would probably be passed by ABP. Am getting more and more worried by this CSD crowd. í´m based in dublin so don´t know enough about them but as an unelected and unaccountable body they appear to be wielding far too much influence.
Re: Harry Crosbie, that was in The Sunday business post last sunday

I was actually thinking of the monsoon store across the way because diesal had that aswell for a short while before they took it over but that unit is actually fairly small alright!

[malec]

Some new pictures:


Boole extension, progressing well:




The jury's development:






Don't know what the name of this is but it's terrible:

[malec]

The school of music:

[malec]

City hall extension, it's actually shaping up to be nicer than I thought it would be, I'll wait for the finished product to judge:




BTW, what the hell are these yokes they've put on top of it? They look extremely cheap and stick out over the top of city hall, anyone know what their purpose is?




Clarion area:




Was it the whole facade that was supposed to be preserved but some idiot hit it by accident? Or was it just the bottom that's supposed tobe kept?

[Radioactiveman]

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Suspected arson attack in Co Cork (RTE NEWS ONLINE)
28 August 2006 10:48
Gardaí in Co Cork are investigating a suspected arson attack on the former John Barleycorn Hotel in Glanmire.
A fire, which broke out at around 3pm yesterday, completely gutted the hotel. It was the second blaze at the building in a week.
The former hotel was bought earlier in the year by a property developer.
However, locals have complained that since the closure the site has become a magnet for vandals.
-END-

This sounds so familiar, a contentious planning application, opposition from local residents, a well known building, lack of any adequate security and a mysterious fire.....lets all ponder that for a minute!!

[THE_Chris]

Some new pictures:


The jury's development:

<<snip>>

gah... whoever designed that needs lynching.

[Lotts]

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This sounds so familiar, a contentious planning application, opposition from local residents, a well known building, lack of any adequate security and a mysterious fire.....lets all ponder that for a minute!!

What was the planning app for ?

[kite]

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Suspected arson attack in Co Cork (RTE NEWS ONLINE)
28 August 2006 10:48
Gardaí in Co Cork are investigating a suspected arson attack on the former John Barleycorn Hotel in Glanmire.
A fire, which broke out at around 3pm yesterday, completely gutted the hotel. It was the second blaze at the building in a week.
The former hotel was bought earlier in the year by a property developer.
However, locals have complained that since the closure the site has become a magnet for vandals.
-END-

This sounds so familiar, a contentious planning application, opposition from local residents, a well known building, lack of any adequate security and a mysterious fire.....lets all ponder that for a minute!!

Moving statutes, spontaneous combustion…welcome to Ireland.

[kite]

Stephen Rodgers reports in today’s Examiner: AN Bord Pleanála is to hold a second oral hearing on a long-running planning application for a 17-storey tower block in Cork City.


Limerick-based developer Werdna’s application to build a 304-apartment complex in nine-storey blocks, a 17-storey tower, a central plaza with retail units and a promenade in Water Street, has been in the planning system since February 2005 and followed a previous application for a 19-storey development in May 2004.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=ireland-qqqm=ireland-qqqa=ireland-qqqid=11922-qqqx=1.asp

[A-ha]

I won't even bother crossing my fingers for that..... I've been doing it for over 2 years for the same project. it's absolutely ridiculous at this stage. Great photos malec, can't wait to see the finished School of Music.

[wearnicehats]

gah... whoever designed that needs lynching.

I don't really have any strong opinion on the Jurys development but I have been doing a lot of trawling of Archiseek since joining up. I've decided now that, when anyone - on any thread - posts a subjective response, I'm going to ask why, if only to see if they actually have any design nouse or are just a big gob.

So......why?

[kite]

Frinailla’s very attractive proposal for the former Good Shepard site on Blarney Street / Sunday’s Well is due a decision today from CCC. Fingers crossed for a positive outcome.

[THE_Chris]

I don't really have any strong opinion on the Jurys development but I have been doing a lot of trawling of Archiseek since joining up. I've decided now that, when anyone - on any thread - posts a subjective response, I'm going to ask why, if only to see if they actually have any design nouse or are just a big gob.

So......why?

It looks to me like a tower block on its side. Jurys has to the the most boring, unoriginal design that I have seen in Cork so far. Aside from that, it just plain looks bad.

[kite]

It looks to me like a tower block on its side. Jurys has to the the most boring, unoriginal design that I have seen in Cork so far. Aside from that, it just plain looks bad.

I agree with you, and others THE_Chris....but Jury's could be worse!!, like this]http://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=519&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0:mad:[/url]

[A-ha]

I knew that PRC article would surface here sooner or later. It's true what it says though..... and the article about Cork contributing the most to Ireland's wealth is good also. Celtic Tiger to be renamed the Rebel Tiger.... brilliant.

[kite]

The Bishop of Cork, Dr.John Buckley, has appointed Michael O’Flynn, MD of O’Flynn Construction to advise on what would be the best use to put the lands of Farranferris Collage.

[wearnicehats]

It looks to me like a tower block on its side. Jurys has to the the most boring, unoriginal design that I have seen in Cork so far. Aside from that, it just plain looks bad.

Wow, Hugh Pearman must be shaking in his boots.

The photos of it aren't that great but the one of the glazed corner looks interesting - I assume that that is the lift core? A hotel by definition is repetitive so the bedrooms will always be so. It's hard to see but are the windows of the bedrooms projected? I know it's not brick because I was dealing with Techrete on another job. This leaves you with the public areas and the circulation areas to express which they seem to have done. I remember doing some work for Jurys a few years back and, believe me, they don't splash much cash. It looks like it would have benfitted from a set back top floor - planning issue? Anyway, I haven't seen the hotel the flesh and I can't form any opinion based on fuzzy photos but I'm going to be in Cork next month so i'll be able to take a more informed view then.

[corkdood]

Anyone know what has become of Lexington? Has he been posting his news updates on another forum as he did during his last absence from Archiseek?

[kite]

Anyone know what has become of Lexington? Has he been posting his news updates on another forum as he did during his last absence from Archiseek?

Lex has not been posting on the other forum.
Frinailla received permission today on the Good Sheperd site with conditions.

[d_d_dallas]

Wow, Hugh Pearman must be shaking in his boots.

The photos of it aren't that great but the one of the glazed corner looks interesting - I assume that that is the lift core? A hotel by definition is repetitive so the bedrooms will always be so. It's hard to see but are the windows of the bedrooms projected? I know it's not brick because I was dealing with Techrete on another job. This leaves you with the public areas and the circulation areas to express which they seem to have done. I remember doing some work for Jurys a few years back and, believe me, they don't splash much cash. It looks like it would have benfitted from a set back top floor - planning issue? Anyway, I haven't seen the hotel the flesh and I can't form any opinion based on fuzzy photos but I'm going to be in Cork next month so i'll be able to take a more informed view then.

The Jury's redevelopment is very much a 21st century version of what it replaces. Cheap cheap cheap. Only this time on a larger more repetitious scale. Given the layout of the site, this has a damaging impact on most of Lancaster Qy. Incidentally Jurys are not the developers, it is OCP who are to blame for not splashing much cash at this.