iveagh market

iveagh market

Postby chewy » Sat Jul 12, 2003 9:41 pm

whats that old iveagh markets building going to be used for

i was wlaking down their today, how long hasn't it being used i don't go downtheir often

i hope it going to be used for new markets, or community use?
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Postby kefu » Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:20 pm

Going to be a hotel. There was some planning row over it but it's now got the final go-ahead.
It was discussed at the June meeting of Dublin City Council and they said work should start before the end of the year.
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Postby Simon » Mon Jul 14, 2003 3:50 pm

Another hotel / superpub. The wise men of DCC should take a train upto Belfast and inspect and view how the old St. George's Market has been restored and operating again as a genuine thriving city market.
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Postby ewanduffy » Tue Jul 15, 2003 1:05 pm

Where is the Iveagh Market? (something more detailed than "in the Liberties" please!)
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Postby Harry » Tue Jul 15, 2003 1:11 pm

It is on Francis Street. If you come from Thomas Street it is on the left

The DTO have a journey planner which will help. Enter "Iveagh Market" as the business.

http://212.17.39.71/dto/content/planner.asp
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Postby StephenC » Tue Jul 15, 2003 1:11 pm

They're on Francis Street I think...or Meath Street. Its a shame they are not remaining as working markets.

On the other side of the Liffey, does anyone know anything about the Markets area redevelopment there. Is it a pipe dream or a serious proposal?
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Postby ewanduffy » Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:20 pm

Originally posted by Harry
It is on Francis Street. If you come from Thomas Street it is on the left

The DTO have a journey planner which will help. Enter "Iveagh Market" as the business.

http://212.17.39.71/dto/content/planner.asp

Thanks.

Went up there on Thursday last as it came up on the Irish Railway News discussion group that there was still a sign on a door marked "Deliveries for the Great Northern Railway".

I can't see this surviving redevelopment.
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Postby Papworth » Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:51 pm

A great oppurtunity existed here for the market (once council property- our property) to be reinstated as a genuine city market. The outdoor market in Temple Bar just down High St. from Francis St. is too small and above all exposed. The rightfull purpose here was staring them in the face. Why can they get so little right !!
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Postby Paul Clerkin » Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:54 pm

Just wrote an article for Food & Wine magazine on why Dublin needs a permanent covered market - mentioned Iveagh again.
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Postby StephenC » Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:08 pm

I have already stated my preference for the markets to have remained working markets. In addition when you consider this area is stilll very much a residential area with a thriving retail community that has not fallen prey to superstores and supermarkets and the like it seems all the more sad that the markets are being taken away and replace by a hotel of all things. Why a hotel here?

The outdoor market in Temple Bar is only a weekend affair and is too full of 'boutique' stalls to be considered a proper market that you would use in preference to your nearest Dunnes or Tescos.

Its a shame... and your right Papworth... the right thing to do is staring the CC in the face!
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Postby emf » Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:31 pm

I'm sure that this market was closed down 'temporarily' until it could be spruced. I remember an article about it at the time. It had interviews with personalities who shopped there. I particularly remember Anne Doyle saying how much she loved it. I wonder was this 'temporary' closure just an excuse to get rid of the traders???
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Postby Rory W » Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:40 pm

Just thinking of the huge markets of the Ramblas in Barcelona (whose name escapes me) - would be fantastic in Dublin.

But then again, when we have a population who are more concerned with how long their weight-wacthers meal will take to microwave before they sit on their arses in front of EastEnders than good fresh food, would the markets be a waste?
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Postby anto » Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:15 pm

one thing Cork definitely has over Dublin, i.e the English Market. Super place and has the best fish in the country
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Postby Paul Clerkin » Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:40 pm

Originally posted by Rory W
Just thinking of the huge markets of the Ramblas in Barcelona (whose name escapes me) - would be fantastic in Dublin.



Mercat de la Boqueria
http://www.archiseek.com/guides/spain/catalunya/barcelona/mercat_de_la_boqueria.html
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Postby Rory W » Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:50 pm

Thats the one... mmm nice
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Re: iveagh market

Postby Paul Clerkin » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:17 pm

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Re: iveagh market

Postby ac1976 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:47 pm

How did it end up taking 4 years to get planning permission?
Very doubtful any hotel will be built here now so maybe it was for the best.
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Re: iveagh market

Postby ac1976 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:47 pm

How did it end up taking 4 years to get planning permission?
Very doubtful any hotel will be built here now so maybe it was for the best.
http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2007/03/25/story22028.asp
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Re: iveagh market

Postby johnglas » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:44 pm

A real shame (though not about the hotel development); I was in the St George's Markets in Belfast recently - positively humming and an exemplar for the Iveagh. Another example (along with the Markets near Smithfield) of the almost terminal lack of imagination and not always doing the complicated thing that seems typical of DCC.
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Re: iveagh market

Postby StephenC » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:10 am

Happy Arthur's Day everyone! Lets celebrate the wonderful contribution of the Guinness family to Dublin by getting pissed on Diageo and throwing more shit into the markets!
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Re: iveagh market

Postby lostexpectation » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:24 pm

need to develope some sort of 'in the meantime' planning scheme, ie yes i know you want to make this into fancy hotel but in meantime we're going to use it for market
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Re: iveagh market

Postby ac1976 » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:50 pm

Eh I think we need a new Dublin City Development plan, these markets (Iveagh and smithfield) need to be saved as markets. Its just silly to think a hotel would be a good idea for the sites.

New Development Plan could = limiting planning permission of the site to allow market activity only as I think the people of Dublin would want.
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Re: iveagh market

Postby ninafive » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:56 am

I used to shop here for vintage clothes back in the early 90's. I loved it- it had a real sense of what i imagine the old markets on the sites of the Ilac Centre and St.Stevens Green had back in the day. Run by a gaggle of older women traders, I used to spend many a happy hour rooting out old clothes- anything from Victorian onwards....a terrible shame all that tradition is lost in Dublin now, all that remains of it I guess is down at the Hill Market off Parnell St of a Saturday morning, and I suppose its days are numbered now that the social welfare office is closed on North Cumberland St....I wonder what plans they have for that building....
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Re: iveagh market

Postby gunter » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:10 am

Not for the faint hearted is the Cumberland Street Market.
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Re: iveagh market

Postby tommyt » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:25 am

gunter wrote:Not for the faint hearted is the Cumberland Street Market.



a good set of sharp elbows and an eye for a diamond in the rough is eesential for any flea marketeering. It's a real pity this hasn't taken off in Dublin on a bigger scale-either in a purpose built place or on the streets.
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