second article from examiner about the development[/URL]
independent's article here (less info than examiner)
PTB wrote:It says in the Examiner that Centre Park road will have to be raised by 3 meters. Is this to stop flooding or what?
And will the trees be chopped down? It's one of the few tree lined avenues in Cork.
who_me wrote:I'm not sure if it's due to flooding, or soil contamination (there probably have been all kinds of oils & chemicals seeping down into much of that earth for decades). If it is due to contamination, what happens if there is any construction in that area, presumably the contaminated soil would all be brought back up to the surface.
3m is a lot! How large an area do they mean?
who_me wrote: you'd think the project was in an advanced state. Between this, Atlantic Quarter, the Origin development on Kennedy Quay and the new event centre on Albert Quay; you'd think the docklands were booming.
ToMuchFreeTime wrote:Here is another image of the proposed development...
...And you're right there is a mountain of development lined up now, With no chance i think of starting anytime soon. Its still rater impressive all the same. If the economoy takes off again, Then there should be nice building boom going on right within the heart of the city. big job creator
rofbp wrote:that first picture was the one i mentioned from inside the paper, which held more interest.
i have 2 queries:
what is the large pylon/structure on top of the large building on the right? it looks quite blocky on the top, almost like a floodlighting pylon!
second, what is the structure on the far left foreground? it looks like a bridge at water street?
i'd like to see a render from this type of angle:
barneymagee wrote:Could simply be a design feature. The Elysian has what looks like a flagpole on top also.
The other thing to notice the next time you're in the area is all the mobile phone masts on the R&H Hall silos. When these are demolished there will be a need for the masts to be located elsewhere. I'd say many of the new tall buildings in the area will see masts on them.
Yea that image seems to be the Water Street bridge which they want to build after the Eastern Gateway Bridge.
ToMuchFreeTime wrote:For everyones convenience i've cut and uploaded the supplied images that went with the planning permission. I haven't had the time to go through the rest of the documentation but will do over the coming days.
who_me wrote:A lot more information is now in the MCP planning application. Check out docs 13 and 15 particular in the EIS in for images and information on the layout. It's a very impressive proposal (and an impressive document!).
p.s. the structure on the roof of the tower appears to be a wind turbine.
rofbp wrote:btw, i've often tried to open those planning links on a mac, in safari and firefox, but it never seems to work. any suggestions?
is that the actual water st bridge or one the developers have stuck in to indicate the bridge's location?
rofbp wrote:thats a delicate thing to engineer. hope its of practical of use rather than as a "statement"
btw, i've often tried to open those planning links on a mac, in safari and firefox, but it never seems to work. any suggestions?
barneymagee wrote:Yea it's annoying. Not sure why the City Council doesn't simply use PDFs rather than LizardTech (never seen anyone else use this).
From what I can tell I can only download the LizardTech plugin for Internet Explorer. There doesn't seem to be one for firefox or safari.
I use firefox as my browser. There is an add-on you can download called IE Tab Plus which opens a new tab within firefox but it's using the Internet Explorer browser engine. It means I can view the planning docs within firefox without having to start up explorer separately.
Not sure if the above will work on a mac though.
Landscape architects OKRA and REDscape, in association with O Connor Sutton Cronin (engineers), Venhoeven CS (architects), Howley Hayes (conservation architects), Fehily Timoney (environment and ecology), Modus Operandi (art consultants), and Davis Langdon PKS (quantity surveyors) will work closely with Cork City Council on this project.