best irish building of 2009

Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby spoil_sport » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:09 pm

I hate to be the asshole, I do, but again, really? I think there might be a very good reason why it has hardly got a mention anywhere....
I can't really tell what makes this corporate stone pig any better than the "corporate glass pig" mentioned earlier, except for the utterly pointless and annoying metal frame and louvres on the other side not shown in the picture above, but they are randomly placed so that makes it trendy and therefore ok.
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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby Devin » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:40 pm

spoil_sport wrote:I can't really tell what makes this corporate stone pig any better than the "corporate glass pig" mentioned earlier.
:eek::eek: The person who designed the Mount St. Bridge pig knows nothing about designing a building in an historic setting.

The building at Baggot Street Bridge is that increasingly rare thing: an architect designed building which recedes from the protected struture, does not dominate it.

I should admit that I am thinking of the building in contextual terms, as I am wan to do, rather than as a one off work of architecture which will keep the AAI and IA in covers for a year.
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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby spoil_sport » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:51 pm

I will retract to an extent. I didn't mean to imply that the building is without some qualities, it does some things well; its scale and massing are acceptable and colour is a good fit; but the expression, particularly the metal frame stuck to the front elevation, the pointless louvres, the proportions of opes and the stripes, dosen't work and is compounded by some poor quality fenestration; nor does it meet the criteria of "completed in 2009" or "best" by any stretch.
...worth a special mention perhaps... but not a winner.
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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby what? » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:46 am

I'm with spoil sport's earlier guise on this one - this is actually a particularly atrocious building i have many times passed it and shuddered. a scraping pass at the very best a special mention is kindness in the extreme.

But lets get back onto the topic of good things built in 2009 - its all to easy to slip back into lambasting rubbish buildings.
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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby Devin » Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:02 pm

Well we all know whay YOU'RE like by now (:D)

BTW the building on Thomas Court beside St. Catherine's Church which won your precious approval has just had a pasting from the planning appeals board.
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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby what? » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:59 pm

Like planners know thier arse from thier elbow about architecture outside thier "architecture by numbers" rule-book..............
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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby wearnicehats » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:05 am

Devin wrote::eek::eek: The person who designed the Mount St. Bridge pig knows nothing about designing a building in an historic setting.

The building at Baggot Street Bridge is that increasingly rare thing: an architect designed building which recedes from the protected struture, does not dominate it.

I should admit that I am thinking of the building in contextual terms, as I am wan to do, rather than as a one off work of architecture which will keep the AAI and IA in covers for a year.


hardly historic. your mates in AFT didn't even bother
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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby Devin » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:27 am

It's borderline ... on the one hand in the Gnd. Canal office district / Mount St. 1970s write off and on the other in the older area ..
But I'm still shocked you like the building no matter where it is ...
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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby missarchi » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:17 pm

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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby teak » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:57 pm

UL President's Humble :D Lodgings ?

http://www.clarecoco.ie/idocsweb/ViewFiles.aspx?docid=188600&format=djvu

>> p35/46 [Explorer browser only and DejaVu viewer installed.]
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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby missarchi » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:52 pm

Image

I will have to admit i'm feeling jaded...
Some countries spent 40 million euro you could almost buy a national monument for that...
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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby gunter » Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:43 am

some snaps of the Mount Street corner block [1 Warrington Place, I think]

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I don't think it's fair to dump on this block, it's just the architectural manifestation of over-blown speculative greed

It might be big, brash and blingy and gives a masterclass in creating awkward junctions, but as a pick-n-mix of iconic features from the modern movement back catalogue, it's kinda fun :rolleyes:
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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby Peter Fitz » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:24 pm

mad looking yoke!
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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby what? » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:08 am

Not to mention the attached.......

This is just HJL's biggest problem. they dont know when enough is enough. additional elevation treatments a better piece of architecture does not make.
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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby Devin » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:16 pm

gunter wrote:Image
It doesn't look too bad in those pictures ...... but when you see it in its location it's inappropriately self-important.

........ It's an architectural photographer's building - that's about the best you could say about it imo.
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Re: best irish building of 2009

Postby spoil_sport » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:33 pm

Is this my fault? By dignifying the original post with a response did I give this unholy mess of a building the legs it now has? I can't understand how this is still being discussed in the context of "best Irish building", negative or otherwise.

Let's move on....
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