CK wrote:The registration of architects was officially started in May 2008 last year... And I am still waiting for the procedure to be in place to regularize my situation.
The fact is that the RIAI has tried to prevent my practice being listed in the Golden Pages last year, and I am wondering what will happen this year. The RIAI continues to promote and defend its members but as the registration body, the RIAI has done nothing for practicing architects non members of the Institute.
As a practicing architect I know that delays can happen during the design, the construction process, and it is understandable that delays can also happen during procedures such as the registration of professionals. However, I think that the RIAI has no excuse for not changing its structure and politic towards non members. 16 months after May 2008, nothing positive has been done for architectural practices non member of the RIAI.
Why? I would have thought that the Registration Body has also a duty of care toward non members of the institute...
henno wrote:it is not in the RIAIs members interest to accept registration of new architects due to an ever shrinking market.
The RIAIs primary raison d'etre is to serve its members to the best of its ability....
two plus two equals four...
wearnicehats wrote:there are many ways to become a member of the RIAI - many more ways, incidentally, than in many other countries
Either take one of those routes and follow the procedures in place or don't. It's really quite simple and all the crying in the world isn't going to help
CK wrote:wearnicehats, I think that you do not realy know what you are talking about...
In the UK for example, experience and knowledge lead to registration. The RIAI has a very academic approach to registration. I have 5 years qualification not listed in the EU directive, and on this ground they have refused my candidature as a MRIAI.
They would like me to apply for registration through a route where I would need to work for a MRIAI architect to register as a full member. I have my own practice since 2001, I have children and I am not willing to go back to work for another architect. For this reason I want to register as per the Building Control Act 2007 (BCA 2007) without applying for RIAI membership. It is my legal right to do so...
The RIAI is the Registration Body and it should help with registration as per the BCA 2007, but instead it is only considering MRIAI applications and this is in breach with the BCA 2007.
I am not crying, I am just defending my rights...
wearnicehats wrote:can you really register with the ARB in the UK without doing an exam?
is working for a MRIAI architect part of the D2 Route?
CK wrote:An examination is necessary to register with the ARB in the UK. However, anyone with the knowledge, skills and experience of an architect would be successful.
To become MRIAI, an examination is requested, including work experience within a MRIAI practice.
wearnicehats wrote:how do you currently sign payment and/or compliance certs
CK wrote:Sorry wearnicehats, my solicitor advised me on this matter, but is is a sensible issue that I do not want to discuss in public or with someone that I do not realy know. There are many guys making illegal certifications out there, and I do not want to help anyone this way...
wearnicehats wrote:and you wonder why the RIAI wants to keep a tight rein on registration:rolleyes:
CK wrote:No... I wonder why nothing has yet been done? 17 months after having declared the registration procedure started. They should either have delaid the official start of the registration procedure, or be ready...
The situation today is: "Registration was started in May 2008, but it is not ready yet"... Do you understand the problem?
RKQ wrote:Very well said CK. I have to agree fully with the points you have raised.
Details of Technical Assessment will be issued on Monday 16th Nov.
I wonder if the fee will be similar to ARAE $11.5K?
Its should be interesting.
You forget that the â‚¬11.500 required for the examination do not include for the â‚¬1,800 lectures that will describe and explain the third part of the exam.
The total cost of the examination will be â‚¬13.300.
teak wrote:Seems this is just PR by all concerned.
The non-architects are still in the new Golden Pages.
They'll will be in next year's directory.
And, as far as the procedures of 'appeal' to be included in this register allow, will remain there.
teak wrote:John & Mary Greenhorn will still be paying thousands to draughtsmen for donkey houses.
And still more money when the planners come back with their usual bluff rebuffs and the "architect" hasn't the knowledge to calmly argue their case for them.
teak wrote:I doubt if people going to build a modest house will go to the RIAI site first looking for the famous register.
An independent Registration body is essential - just like the UK.
PlanE wrote:In the UK architects have to pay both bodies a subscription for what is in effect the same duty: the maintenance, control and promotion of a registrar for architects. I'd be more than happy to limit my expenses right now, and I really don't see the need for dividing up the duty.
reddy wrote:O god... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_architecture
Horrible stuff! My brain melted after the first sentence. "Tarchitecture"!! ha.
gunter wrote:I though the title 'Architect' was supposed to be registered now
This is from an ad. placed by an insurance outfit called 'RenaissanceRe', in the appointments section of today's Irish Times.
Has anyone any idea what these people are talking about?
[INDENT]'LEAD TECHNICAL ARCHITECT'[/INDENT]
[INDENT]''We are looking to a recruit a lead technical architect to join our development department. The purpose of the role is to ensure that long-term architectural requirements for the company's applications are provided for in common design tooling and technical run-time frameworks and platforms. The successful candidate will architect the tooling and platforms such that applications can be built rapidly, with minimal understanding of the underlying technology concerns. They will also provide input to the best practice. Usage of our platforms and assist in tecnology governance across the company''.[/INDENT]
Ok, I see they've press-ganged the word architect into use as a verb in one of the sentences, which I suppose is a clue, but some of the other sentences don't seem to have any verbs at all.
Btw, in what world are the qualities of '' passion for rapid innovation, creativity and a strong belief in the entrepreneurial culture . . . '' got anything to do with becoming an insurance man?