Regeneration of King's Island ~ Saint Mary's Park

Re: Regeneration of King’s Island ~ Saint Mary’s Park

Postby Junior » Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:06 pm

[quote="Tuborg"]Damn that wealthy Protestant man anyway! :p Although to be fair, considering Limerick's record of preserving it's historic fabric, something would surely have happened to it regardless! Presumably Ireton's house was acquired for the cathedral under similar circumstances?

It has only recently dawned on me that Ireton's House or Galway's Castle as it was previously known is in fact not the dutch gabled house adjacent the Exchange. All photographs of 'Iretons House' show an empty plot of ground on the corner of Nicholas st and Bridge street, We know from the Civil Survey 1654-56 that this corner location was the position of Galway's Castle.
In the attatched photo from the Limerick Museum showing the delapidated rear of the Billy next to the Exchange there is a spread of rubble(formerly Iretons House) which would suggest that given the fact that the graveyard of the St. Mary's Cathedral is raised behind the Exchange the cellar/undercroft of the two billy's may remain reletively intact
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Re: Regeneration of King’s Island ~ Saint Mary’s Park

Postby Tuborg » Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:45 pm

Junior wrote:It has only recently dawned on me that Ireton's House or Galway's Castle as it was previously known is in fact not the dutch gabled house adjacent the Exchange. All photographs of 'Iretons House' show an empty plot of ground on the corner of Nicholas st and Bridge street, We know from the Civil Survey 1654-56 that this corner location was the position of Galway's Castle.

In the attatched photo from the Limerick Museum showing the delapidated rear of the Billy next to the Exchange there is a spread of rubble(formerly Iretons House) which would suggest that given the fact that the graveyard of the St. Mary's Cathedral is raised behind the Exchange the cellar/undercroft of the two billy's may remain reletively intact


Yeah spot on. In the photograph below you can clearly see the boundary wall of St. Mary's/graveyard entrance from Bridge Street with a vacant plot next to that building.

Higher quality image here

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So currently there are no images available of Ireton's House/Galwey's Castle? Presumably it would have been pulled down some time in the 1890s?
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Re: Regeneration of King’s Island ~ Saint Mary’s Park

Postby CologneMike » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:39 am

Junior wrote:It has only recently dawned on me that Ireton's House or Galway's Castle as it was previously known is in fact not the dutch gabled house adjacent the Exchange. All photographs of 'Iretons House' show an empty plot of ground on the corner of Nicholas st and Bridge street, We know from the Civil Survey 1654-56 that this corner location was the position of Galway's Castle.

In the attatched photo from the Limerick Museum showing the delapidated rear of the Billy next to the Exchange there is a spread of rubble(formerly Iretons House) which would suggest that given the fact that the graveyard of the St. Mary's Cathedral is raised behind the Exchange the cellar/undercroft of the two billy's may remain reletively intact


I think you could mention this to Larry Walsh (Limerick Museum), for they could be spreading misinformation about Ireton’s location.

Link: Limerick City. Ireton's house, rear and side, c.1890


Link: Glass slide. Limerick City. Titled: Gridiron Inn. View of Nicholas St from the north side of Mary St near corner with Athlunkard St. Derelict site at corner of Bishop St - Nicholas St, then two Dutch gabled houses (including Ireton's House), the Exchange (intact, with windows), gable of St Mary's Cathedral.


Are these two Dutch gabled houses in fact then just a twin Billy building (two shop fronts) sharing one roof?
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Re: Regeneration of King’s Island ~ Saint Mary’s Park

Postby CologneMike » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:13 pm

CologneMike wrote:Are these two Dutch gabled houses in fact then just a twin Billy building (two shop fronts) sharing one roof?


gunter wrote:Dutch Billy Thread (page 6, posts 132, 133)

That five storey beside the exchange is astonishing, and totally Dutch in the proportions of solid to void on the first floor (second and third floors altered to 3 windows?).

(There is a serious warning here not to trust prints, if that Exchange print is supposed to represent the same house)


Could it be possible that the 1820 picture below did represent the existence of two Dutch gables as there are two narrow plots to be seen in Junior’s map (insert) and that in the c. 1880 image above, they had been latter altered to a twin gable with one roof?
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Postby CologneMike » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:25 pm

Junior wrote:The Irish Walled Towns Network is a Heritage Council based conservation plan which was launched two years ago, its remit is constrained specifically to conservation and education of the existing town walls of Irish cities.

It has been mooted before to reconstruct stretches of the town wall but it is not archaeologically sound, An Bord Pleanala ,An Taisce ,to name a few organisations would never let it happen. The Irish Walled Towns Network (IWTN) through Aegis Archaeology has already completed a systematic survey of the walls of Limerick whereby the current state of the walls,deterioration & overgrown with shrubbery have been noted and there is a plan already in place to conserve the walls section by section, work has already begun on conservation of the little Gerard Griffith Street/Mungret Gate section of the town walls.

The section of walls on Island road is apparently the next in line, The Limerick Civic Trust has come into some criticism of late for not having a continuous management plan for the upkeep of the numerous sections of the town walls that they conserved in the early nineties.

Hopefully the IWTN will ensure that the surviving sections of walls are conserved and appreciated to the fullest extent.


I came across this report on the Limerick Museum section of the City Council’s site.

Limerick City Walls ~ Conservation & Management Plan

ÆGIS Archaeology Limited
Architectural Conservation Professionals
Minogue & Associates

Report Prepared for:
Limerick City Council and The Heritage Council

May 2008

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Postby dave123 » Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:28 am

http://www.property.ie/commercial-property/Athlunkard-Street-Limerick-City-Co-Limerick/25981/

Some redevelopment on the pipeline on Athlunkard Street here.
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Re: Regeneration of King’s Island ~ Saint Mary’s Park

Postby CologneMike » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:39 pm

The new “Irish Historic Towns Atlas ~ Limerick” reveals some gems. :cool: There is an 1845 impression of Nicholas Street (Wilkinson p. 130) which really grabs the imagination. In the selected bibliography, it mentions a book from George Wilkinson called the “Practical Geology and Ancient Architecture of Ireland” (Dublin and London 1845), so I’ll make an educated guess and presume this drawing originally came from it. I wonder when anybody is browsing the next time around the National Library and could confirm this.

This image fuels my support for some form of reconstruction of Dutch-gables as discussed in the previous page.

The map of Nicholas Street is from 1840. Was the drawing made from the corner of Abbey Street looking towards the direction of the castle?
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Re: Regeneration of King’s Island ~ Saint Mary’s Park

Postby Griff » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:17 pm

That image stood out for me too - I think you are possibly correct in your guess as to the location. Nicholas st from Bridge st to Baals bridge has a gentle decline.Assuming that the row of buildings in the image starts at the corner of the lane opposite Abbey st - there are roughly nine buildings on the map as far as Kelly's lane - where the building with the high square top is shown on the image. I take it Abbey st is now Newgate lane... looking at that section of street on bing maps there isnt much of interest really.Wonder what those 2 grey stone buildings are halfway along the block Image
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Re: Regeneration of King’s Island ~ Saint Mary’s Park

Postby CologneMike » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:51 pm

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Castle Street ~ Dutch-Gables

The 1842 drawing of the new Thomond Bridge and King Johns Castle (W.F. Wakeman NLI) more or less confirms what the Brocas Print from 1826 showed.

Both reveal similar Dutch-gables on Castle Street with The Parade (Nicholas Street) in the background.

It seems they cleared the houses running alongside the castle to make way for the then new wider bridge and road.

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Re: Regeneration of King’s Island ~ Saint Mary’s Park

Postby CologneMike » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:20 pm

Tourist trail ‘a disgrace’ (Limerick Post)

Written by Colum Coomey

NICHOLAS Street is a disgrace and left to decay, warn locals, demanding immediate attention from the authorities.

What angers them is that the street is a main artery to a number of tourist attractions, and also within yards of City Hall.

Patience is running out for traders and residents.

It is even claimed there is open dealing of heroin on the narrow street, which has been described as a meeting point for sellers and addicts, with often up to a dozen gathering to buy drugs.

A gate was erected to close off one alleyway to undesirables.

The passageway, to the rear of City Hall, is regularly littered with syringes, it has been claimed.

Councillor Maurice Quinlivan condemned the volume of drug dealing in the area and is particularly concerned in that there are three schools in the vicinity.

He said: “This is the main thoroughfare for tourists walking from King John’s Castle to the Cathedral and the Treaty Stone, and it is a disgrace the way it has been neglected”.

He said that Gardaí recently raided one property.

Four pubs, an amusement arcade and takeaway, a printers, two antique shops, two newsagents, a polish foodstore and a number of offices dot the street.

Others have closed, and traders feels that unless Limerick City Council address recurring problems, there will be more casualties.

The one-way traffic system and lack of parking spaces are blamed for loss of business.

One trader consistently receives parking fines while unloading goods.

He pointed to the number of derelict properties.

“They have done nothing for us in the past 20 years. They widened the footpaths to make the street more attractive and look at the results; we now have 23ft of footpath and 13ft of road...”.

Nicholas Street, it was said, should be a tourist hub, but one resident commented: “The few tourists we do see only come to photograph the weeds”.


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It’s very disappointing alright, though in fairness the city council did a fine job of repaving Mary and Nicholas Streets.

See also map of tourist trail.
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Postby CologneMike » Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:08 pm

Part of shop front falls on city street (IrishExaminer)

By Jimmy Woulfe, Mid West Correspondent

A CITY street in Limerick was near-empty when parts of a derelict building crashed to the ground yesterday.

But a former mayor said if the incident had happened in a few weeks’ time, when schools were re-opened, there could have been a major tragedy.

The incident occurred in Nicholas Street around 9am. Some locals warned the street is a potential ‘death row’ due to the bad condition of some unoccupied buildings.

City Hall councillor John Gilligan said: "A huge part of a shop front fell down. If there had been anybody waiting there they would have been killed. This is normally a very busy street at around 9 o’clock when schools are open, as hundreds of children pass along the street to a local national school.

"If it happened when the schools were open we would have had a major tragedy on our hands. I have been calling for action to be taken on this particular building for years due to its dangerous condition.

Mr Gilligan said investors had acquired old premises in the good Celtic Tiger years.

"Now they have walked away and left these buildings in a deteriorating condition. The city council must now move on the owners of these building and compel them to make them safe."

The section of shop facia which fell yesterday measured about 20ft x 4ft.


Maybe the council should issue hard hats to the school kids if they intend to keep ignoring the state of the streets surrounding the town hall. :mad: Anybody know exactly which building collapsed?
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Re: Regeneration of King’s Island ~ Saint Mary’s Park

Postby speckybecky » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:20 pm

hi there,
i am wondering if anyobody knows whether or not the Dutch houses situated between st. john's castle and the FAS almshouses off Nicholas Street are orignal or reconstruction/totally new? they look pretty pristine.
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Postby rumpelstiltskin » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:02 am

Nope, they were newly built for tourists back in the 90s.

speckybecky wrote:hi there,
i am wondering if anyobody knows whether or not the Dutch houses situated between st. john's castle and the FAS almshouses off Nicholas Street are orignal or reconstruction/totally new? they look pretty pristine.
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Postby CologneMike » Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:45 am

Yep, a Shannon Development tourist project.

Devin posted this Irish Times (1998) article on the Dutch Billy thread.

Historical pastiche a dubious tribute to Limerick's heritage

Shannon Development rolled out the red carpet last weekend for the official opening of its latest flagship project, a £3.8 million tourism development involving the construction of a street beside King John's Castle and the refurbishment of its visitor centre.

Castle Lane contains "a blend of several different examples of Limerick's architectural heritage" - a mid-18th century granary, two early 18th century "Dutch Billy" gabled houses, a more humble urban labourer's cottage and a stone-fronted merchant's house with a 17th century appearance.

All beautifully built by Michael McNamara and Company, the complex is the end-product of market research commissioned by Shannon Development which identified the need for a "magnet tourism project" for Limerick that might transform it into an "international tourist destination".

The State's only regional development company had a problem. The grey metal-clad visitor centre at the castle, built in 1990, had never won public approval; Cllr John Gilligan, an independent member of Limerick Corporation, once invited "the entire populace" to throw stones at the offending structure.

Browbeaten by this continuing controversy, Shannon Development turned away from contemporary architecture towards quasi-historical pastiche when it came to building Castle Lane - despite strenuous objections from the Heritage Council, which felt such a solution would lack authenticity.

The National Monuments Service opposes the scheme because it meant building in the early 13th century castle moat, parallel to its southern wall. This involved abandoning earlier plans to line Castle Lane with "medieval" buildings, forcing Shannon Development to pick a later period for its project.

Murray O'Laoire, the award-winning architects' firm which designed the castle's visitor centre, believed a contemporary building would be the most appropriate solution. But its advice was rejected, although it was persuaded to stay on, at least, as project managers, leaving the design work for others.

Mr Hugh Murray, who heads the firm's Limerick office, said last weekend he was unhappy about a Shannon Development press release listing Murray O'Laoire as the architects. "I've always said that, no matter what happens, I'll be defending the visitor centre but I won't be defending [Castle Lane]."

To counter public loathing of the visitor centre, Event Ireland - which specialises in heritage projects - was commissioned to improve its appearance by fixing a series of full-height heraldic banners on both sides of the structure. These give the building a lift, making it look more festive.

The visitor centre forecourt has also been re-ordered, with the moat and bridge removed and steel handrails replaced by timber. Inside, the "complete refurbishment" includes covering up the main windows to provide space for wax dummies in full regalia of James II, William III and others involved in the Siege of Limerick.

As for the buildings on Castle Lane, the "mid-18th century" granary at the corner of Nicholas Street will be the new home of Limerick City Museum; it is relocating there from a real Georgian house on John's Square. The remaining buildings constitute a very large "themed pub".

The pair of Dutch Billys, nicely tuck-pointed and "authentic" in every detail, house the kitchen and toilets of the new Castle Lane Tavern; one entrance is a fire exit from the pub. And the humble labourer's house next door is also part of this "re-created early 18th century tavern".

Executed by McNally Design, responsible for numerous Irish "themed pubs" abroad, it has beams decorated with old carpenter's tools to evoke a workshop while upstairs visitors are seated at trestle tables in a room with painted trompe l'oeil blockwork on the walls and even the ceiling.

At both levels, the "labourer's cottage" opens out into the "17th century merchant's house", which contains a "gentry bar" with a stone-built fireplace on the ground-floor and an even larger one upstairs, where the high ceiling, supported by king-post trusses, is decorated in mid-19th century Gothic Revival style, after Pugin.

The piece de resistance is an oriel window in the corner, which offers a panoramic view over the River Shannon; otherwise, because the windows are relatively small and there are few of them, the building fails to capitalise on its location - though Castle Lane does link Nicholas Street with the riverside walk.

"In essence, from an architectural viewpoint, the buildings which make up Castle Lane represent different examples of Limerick's built heritage of which some [notably the Dutch gables] are now largely lost to us," says Shannon Development. "They represent a tribute to an architectural legacy which is being increasingly destroyed."

This is part of the problem. While the new quasi-historical complex was clad in brick and stone salvaged from buildings demolished in Limerick, it is clear the city is failing to look after its real architectural heritage; a plethora of PVC windows deface the Crescent, centrepiece of Georgian Limerick.

Shannon Development is on firmer ground with its latest project at Bunratty Folk Park. This involved re-erecting a redundant Regency Gothic Church of Ireland parish church from Ardcroney, near Borrisokane, Co Tipperary. There are even plans to plant yew trees to make it look as if it has always been there.

Bunratty Folk Park also contains several invented buildings, and there is nothing wrong with that because they stand within a corral. But was it right to build quasi-historical buildings at Castle Lane in the heart of Limerick?

Frank McDonald

© The Irish Times, May 22, 1998



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Here are other Englishtown (King’s island) posts from the Dutch Billy thread.

126, 131, 132, 140, 141, 209, 210, 212, 214, 216, 235, 237, 245, 246, 249, 250, 251, 252, 253, 254, 255, 256.
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Re: Regeneration of King’s Island ~ Saint Mary’s Park

Postby zulutango » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:13 am

rumpelstiltskin wrote:Nope, they were newly built for tourists back in the 90s.


Looking at the maps and pictures in the 'Historic Town' series produced by the RIA, many, if not most, of the buildings along Nicholas Street were of this design in the 1800's.
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Postby johnglas » Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:40 pm

Whatever may have been the controversy about the 'repro' buildings on Castle lane, they look in their current state to be about to join the long list of streets/buildings in Limerick which are slowly (or rapidly) crumbling away to their basic elements. Is there something in the Limerick air? Apart from all the regular media horror stories about Gangsterville (aka Moyross), all the threads here point to a city bent on destroying (or having already destroyed) what architectural/townscape quality and character it has/had.
Yet, on my one visit, it seemed to me to have the most 'urban' character in Ireland. I am genuinely puzzled - Limerick surely cannot be as dysfunctional as it appears.
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Postby gunter » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:22 pm

I think you're right johnglas, a lot of the character is still there [just], but the overwhelming sense that I get when I go down there is that they have absolutely no idea how to embrace that character, beyond the usual token jestures. So much of the local authority energy in Limerick seems to be spent trying to address the problems of the out-lying 'problem' estates that they've lost all focus on the city core and the spec developers have made hay in their usual way with suburban sprawl and trademark out-of-town shopping centres, which in turn have further drained the life out of the city centre.

They can convince the Government to throw all the millions they like at Moyross etc. but Limerick is going nowhere as a city until it gets the message that you can't fix urban problems without employing urban solutions and the first urban solution is always - make the city compact.

There's a simple test that should be applied to all development proposals, as a city official you just ask yourself; does this proposal:
[a] contribute to the regeneration of the city centre in a way that respects and utilizes the urban heritage? or
[b] would this proposal have a detremental effect on the goal of creating a compact, lively, city centre that respects and utilizes the urban heritage? or
[c] would this proposal have no effect on the city centre, good or bad?

If the answer is [b] or [c] . . . . just feck it out.

I would love to run the planning office for a week, just me, a coffee machine and an industrial sized shredder
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Postby CologneMike » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:52 pm

I agree Johnglas, Limerick ’s high crime profile is peculiar. :confused:

The city has grown under the jurisdiction of three local authorities. Its dysfunctional problems stem from there.

I think Peter Coyne and Edward Walsh give a very good snap-shot of the city today and how it should be.

The Vision of a Revitalised Limerick ~ The Fundamental Vision

Arising from the 20 interviews with a selection of leading figures in the wider city area, a uniformity of expression was evident concerning the present state of the city and the fundamental or intuitive vision of its future:

What Urban Limerick Looks Like
• Retail moving out to suburbs – retail values falling;
• Nobody manages the entirety of the city: it’s divided up between 3 competing local authorities;
• Depopulating and looking a bit derelict;
• It’s going nowhere – even though it could be great;
• Little development compared to other cities;
• No joined up thinking – or doing;
• Economy hanging on a shrinking base;
• Three huge concentrations of inner city deprivation;
• City centre dragged down by social and economic imbalance;
• No heart to the city;
• Absence of vibrancy and culture;
• The river could be so much more;
• Hardly any tourism – very little to attract them;
• Business areas abandoned after work;
• The bigger city has no leadership;
• The city is not embraced by the people – they don’t own it;
• Not even a cinema;
• Terrible reputation for crime that’s probably undeserved but these things are self-fulfilling;
• There is no vision

How Urban Limerick Should Look
• A growing city for the region - could be a 250,000 metropolitan population;
• A proper city with ambitious and accountable government with a can-do attitude;
• A honeypot for inward investment – a counterbalance to the overheated east;
• A bustling and exciting waterfront – an iconic heart to the city;
• Vibrancy in the city centre – 18-24 hour city;
• A critical mass of tourist attractions;
• Family-friendly city with the homes and amenities that encourage people with economic choice to live in the city;
• The retail centre for the region;
• The university an inextricable element of the city brand - connecting socially and culturally with the city as well as economically,
• New economic activities – a knowledge industry growth centre – renewed synergies with a growing 3rd and 4th level;
• Excellent transportation infrastructure and interconnectivity with other Atlantic cities – people able to commute between them;
• Docklands and King’s Island new and wonderful mixed use extensions to the city centre;
• Several big civic pride icons – buildings and places to put us on the world stage;
• Citizens taking pride and caring for their city;
• Leadership;
• A city known for arts and culture;
• A city with a vision
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Postby cheebah » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:16 pm

CologneMike wrote:Maybe the council should issue hard hats to the school kids if they intend to keep ignoring the state of the streets surrounding the town hall. :mad: Anybody know exactly which building collapsed?


Bella Arts and Crafts- Hasn't been open for about 6-7 years now. Owned by someone with a three lettered surname I think.
It is the blue building at the very right of your photo in this post
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Postby johnglas » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:37 pm

Thanks everybody for the comments; the 'solutions' to the problems are well known, but it's the need to implement them with some sense of purpose that's required - the 'vision thing'. The fragmenation of the city into three l/a areas clearly doesn't help and the sooner the boundary is extended the better. But there needs to be a much stronger feeling for what urban and urban heritage is; King's Island should be like York or Chester (can't think of a good example from here - Perth's probably the nearest), but I think the 'contemporary' intervention at the Castle was a mistake (it's far too industrial) and you clearly don't need to invent building types from some fake past, but the area does need some life and activity about it - maybe by the time of the next boom there will be some kind of plan in place (now's the time to do it).
The river is, of course, magnificent, but Moyross... The army should just blitz it in a night, grab all the guns and get all the hoods in court and jail them for possession of offensive weapons, for a very long time. I know, it will never happen. Query, why did all the 'decent' pepole allow the situation to develop to the point it has, and are the Gardai just afraid of the thugs? No city should have an area as persistently and notoriously violent as Moyross. We don't, and I come from Glasgow.
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Postby KeepAnEyeOnBob » Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:51 pm

I think they would be better off trying to polish up the outlying areas around Newtown, up by the station, top of William St., etc. and yet retain the old buildings and streetscapes here. And indeed build on the planned redevelopment of William Street and the work on Thomas/Catherine St. by focussing not on Opera Centre area, but on Newtown/the other side of William St.

King's Island to me seems a lost cause, and between there and William Street seems irrevocably wrecked by poorly thought-out modern failures.

Best to try to preserve Newtown and the old areas between St. John's Cathedral and the Station (and even what's left on Broad/John's St. and High St. - especially with the redeveloped market - plonking in just one well-thought out development on Mungret St. where the furniture store is, or the units nearer Broad St. would do a lot). There are still so many wee shops around these areas too, even if they are local and some a bit down-market (although some are just traditional).
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Postby CologneMike » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:53 pm

The King’s Island Seminar (Saturday 28th August)

The King’s Island is situated on the Abbey and Shannon Rivers and is featuring King John’s Castle and Saint Mary’s Cathedral. It is both an important link with Limerick’s Past and a vital part of Limerick’s Present. Find out more about King’s Island and its Heritage!

Programme:

9.30am Registration
10.00am Welcome
10.15am King’s Island from Prehistory to the Vikings
11.45am Tea Break
12.00pm King John’s Castle
12.45pm Lunch Break
14.00pm Medieval and Post-Medieval Developments on King’s Island
14.45pm Industry on King’s Island
15.30pm Tea Break
15.45pm King’s Island today and in the Future
16.30pm Finish

Booking recommended. Places are being allocated on a first-come, first-served basis. For further information about our events contact: 061-490080 or email education@huntmuseum.com

National Heritage Week Events ~ Hunt Museum
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Re: Regeneration of King’s Island ~ Saint Mary’s Park

Postby johnglas » Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:35 am

I obviously cannot be there, but a brief summary from someone who can be would be very welcome. I hope this will be a briskly discursive event and not just a stroll through urban history.
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Re: Regeneration of King’s Island ~ Saint Mary’s Park

Postby CologneMike » Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:30 pm

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Nicholas Street Protest ~ Absentee Landlords

Limerick Sinn Féin Councillor with local party members, residents and traders protesting at the deterioration of Nicholas Street.


“Absentee Landlords” funny how Irish history seems to repeat itself!

On Bridge Street there is a new planning application (10173) fronting onto St. Mary’s Cathedral.

Pity that the two-storey building to the right could not be incorporated too, in order maximise the street frontage.

Previous posts 10, 19.

Alterations to planning permission reference P08/269, change use from a 4 storey office building to a 4 storey building with a retail unit (cafe/restaurant use) at ground floor, and 11 apartments at ground and above ground level, (4 two bed & 7 one bed), alterations to the elevations, works to the existing boundary walls and all associated ancillary works at the site adjacent to the former post office.
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Re: Regeneration of King’s Island ~ Saint Mary’s Park

Postby cheebah » Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:38 pm

More promises ? From Limerick Post this week

I see that the local SF protest put a number of posters on the derelict buildings. A really simple and good idea which others should consider.


A MAJOR revamp is proposed for the run-down Nicholas Street area, spearheaded by City Council and Shannon Development, who want to change Limerick city from a service to a destination centre.



Moves are also afoot to boost trade by transporting passengers from ships that dock at Foynes Harbour to the city. Shannon Development’s chief executive, Eoghan Prendergast, confirmed that, in co-operation with council, it is driving forward a major revamp of King John’s Castle.
“The castle’s performance has slipped, but we have an application in for funding to develop it and bring in tourism - we hope to have 100,000 visitors annually.
“The project we are going after will be the linchpin for further development of Nicholas Street, as well as a major development for Castle Lane”.
Reminding a meeting this week that in 1985, the council demolished 26 houses inside King John’s Castle, Cllr Kevin Kiely said that people had been told then that the castle and Nicholas Street area would become Limerick’s Temple Bar
“With 75% of Nicholas Street derelict, it needs a major investment. When we closed the street to traffic it was to develop tourism, but I believe that the reason it did not succeed was competition between Bunratty Castle and King John’s - we should have a separate management.
“Speculators got buildings on the street for half nothing but we must now develop the street and we need to consult with the businesses and let them know of our plans”.
Meanwhile, Mr Prendergast revealed they were working with the Shannon Foynes Port Company to get people off the ships that berth there, to visit Limerick city, and also get visitors from Cork Harbour to Limerick - in Belfast, they bring in 100,000 visitors annually from cruisers.
“The Irish naval vessel, the LE Eithne, has told us they love coming to Limerick because the port is in the middle of the city - Cllr Jim Long is right in his suggestion that ships could sail into and berth in Limerick Docks”.
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